1914 TGC (Central Powers) vs VF (Entente) oob, no bid, RR

[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain
Game History

Round: 17

    Puchase Units - French
        French buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - French
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Piedmont: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by French from Piedmont: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        7 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Switzerland to Burgundy
        20 infantry moved from Paris to Burgundy
        1 infantry moved from Brest to Paris
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Rome to SZ 17
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 17 to SZ 16
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from SZ 16 to Marseilles
        2 infantry moved from Paris to Burgundy

    Combat - French

    Combat Move - French

    Place Units - French
        10 infantry placed in Paris

    Turn Complete - French
        French collect 29 PUs; end with 30 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Game History

Round: 17

    Puchase Units - British
        British buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        2 transports moved from SZ 8 to SZ 9
        4 infantry moved from London to SZ 9
        4 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 9 to SZ 8
        4 infantry moved from SZ 8 to Brest
        4 infantry moved from Brest to Paris
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Persia to Sevastopol
        2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tank moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol
        2 tanks moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry and 1 tank moved from India to SZ 29
        1 infantry and 1 tank moved from SZ 29 to Mesopotamia
        6 infantry moved from India to Persia

    Combat Move - British

    Place Units - British
        4 infantry placed in London
        9 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 17

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Place Units - Ottomans
        3 infantry placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs

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[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain
Game History

Round: 17

    Puchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Place Units - Italians
        4 infantry placed in Rome

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Game History

Round: 17

    Puchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1
        1 artillery, 7 infantry and 4 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 13
        4 transports moved from SZ 14 to SZ 1
        1 artillery, 7 infantry and 4 transports moved from SZ 13 to SZ 14
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 16
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco
        2 transports moved from SZ 17 to SZ 19
        1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from SZ 16 to SZ 17
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Rome
        4 transports moved from SZ 17 to SZ 16

    Combat Move - Americans

    Place Units - Americans
        1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in United States of America

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 25 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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Lol, this is one of the longest games I’ve ever played :)

[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 18

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        7 units repaired.
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Albania: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Tatarstan
        8 infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
        3 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        5 infantry moved from Serbia to Romania
        8 infantry moved from Vienna to Galicia
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia
        1 tank moved from Venice to Tuscany
        5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 14 infantry and 6 tanks moved from Venice to Piedmont
        2 infantry moved from Tyrolia to Venice
        1 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia
        8 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice
        6 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        1 fighter moved from Serbia to Galicia

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Piedmont
            AustroHungarians attack with 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 16 infantry and 6 tanks
            French defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 16 infantry and 6 tanks in Piedmont, round 2 : 10/28 hits, 11.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Piedmont, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the French lost in Piedmont
            AustroHungarians win, taking Piedmont from Italians with 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 16 infantry and 6 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1, tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0.50
AustroHungarians regular : -1.83

[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 18

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 17 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        5 units repaired.
        20 artilleries, 9 fighters, 38 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Picardy to Burgundy
        1 artillery, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Lorraine to Burgundy
        1 infantry moved from Belgium to Picardy
        13 infantry moved from Belgium to Lorraine
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Holland to Belgium
        1 infantry moved from Alsace to Lorraine
        15 infantry moved from Munich to Switzerland
        2 artilleries and 15 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich
        1 transport moved from SZ 10 to SZ 11
        2 infantry moved from Berlin to SZ 11
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 11 to SZ 10
        2 infantry moved from SZ 10 to Holland
        16 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Moscow to Tatarstan
        1 infantry moved from Karelia to Moscow
        3 artilleries moved from Moscow to Tatarstan
        1 infantry moved from Moscow to Ukraine

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Switzerland
            Germans attack with 15 infantry
            French defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 15 infantry in Switzerland, round 2 : 4/15 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 infantry in Switzerland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the French lost in Switzerland
            Germans win, taking Switzerland from French with 15 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry
        Battle in Burgundy
            Germans attack with 21 artilleries, 10 fighters, 51 infantry and 5 tanks
            French defend with 7 artilleries and 40 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 21 artilleries, 10 fighters, 51 infantry and 5 tanks in Burgundy, round 2 : 36/87 hits, 39.50 expected hits
                French roll dice for 7 artilleries and 40 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 23/47 hits, 23.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 5 tanks owned by the Germans
                18 infantry owned by the Germans and 36 infantry owned by the French lost in Burgundy
            French and Germans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 54
            Casualties for Germans: 18 infantry
            Casualties for French: 36 infantry

    Combat Move - Germans

    Place Units - Germans
        17 infantry placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 54 PUs; end with 56 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -1.00
Germans regular : -4.50

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[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst France/UK is up

[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain
Game History

Round: 18

    Puchase Units - French
        French buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - French
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Burgundy: 7 artilleries and 4 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by French from Burgundy: 7 artilleries and 4 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Combat - French

    Combat Move - French
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Burgundy: 7 artilleries and 4 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by French to Burgundy: 62 infantry and 2 tanks
        EDIT: Removing units owned by French from Marseilles: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by French from Paris: 9 artilleries, 56 infantry and 2 tanks
        EDIT: Adding units owned by French to Burgundy: 17 artilleries
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - French
        10 infantry placed in Paris

    Turn Complete - French
        French collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Game History

Round: 18

    Puchase Units - British
        British buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        4 infantry moved from Paris to Picardy
        1 battleship, 3 cruisers and 2 transports moved from SZ 8 to SZ 9
        4 infantry moved from London to SZ 9
        1 battleship, 3 cruisers, 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 9 to SZ 8
        4 infantry moved from Brest to Picardy
        4 infantry moved from SZ 8 to Picardy
        3 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 tank moved from Sevastopol to Ukraine
        2 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol
        6 infantry moved from Persia to Sevastopol
        2 infantry moved from India to SZ 29
        2 infantry moved from SZ 29 to Mesopotamia
        7 infantry moved from India to Persia

    Combat - British
        Battle in Picardy
            British attack with 12 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 battleship in Picardy, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Picardy, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Picardy
            British win, taking Picardy from Germans with 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine
            British attack with 3 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 tank
            Germans defend with 1 infantry; AustroHungarians defend with 8 infantry
                British roll dice for 3 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 tank in Ukraine, round 2 : 5/14 hits, 5,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 9 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4,50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the British
                4 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 5 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine
            Germans and British reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for British: 5 infantry
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 4 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - British

    Place Units - British
        9 infantry placed in India
        4 infantry placed in London
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 2,00
British regular : -0,33

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Lol, it’s hard to prevent those battles from firing off, especially when there are a lot of units involved. Editing all of them to Neutral True makes it a pain. Also that weird error: " Territory is start or end of pending move" …
My intention was to reinforce Burgundy, not to attack it. But I forgot the game immediately starts the battle if there is only one. I restarted my turn immediately because it might look suspicious if I continued the battle and then edited everything back if I happened to get a bad result :)
I hope you are ok with this.

[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 18

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania

    Combat Move - Ottomans

    Place Units - Ottomans
        3 infantry placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs

O18.tsvg no worries. Also, “Territory is start or end of pending move” only comes up if you have moved pieces into or out of a territory and then tried to EDIT. If you “undo” all the moves, then make the edits, there will be no prob. Hope that helps - I’m trying to get them to fix some of these issues…

[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst Italy/USA is up

[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain
Game History

Round: 18

    Puchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Place Units - Italians
        2 infantry placed in Rome

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 8 PUs; end with 10 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Game History

Round: 18

    Puchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1
        1 artillery, 7 infantry and 4 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 13
        4 transports moved from SZ 14 to SZ 1
        1 artillery, 7 infantry and 4 transports moved from SZ 13 to SZ 14
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 16
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from SZ 16 to Marseilles
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Smyrna to SZ 19
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Rome to SZ 17
        1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from SZ 17 to SZ 16
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 19 to SZ 16
        2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from SZ 16 to Marseilles

    Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Marseilles: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by French from SZ 17: 1 transport
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by French to SZ 17: 1 transport
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from SZ 17: 1 transport
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from SZ 17: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to SZ 17: 1 transport
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - Americans
        1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in United States of America

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 25 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst

I attacked with the Germans in Burgundy and scored 34 hits. How do you want them?

[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain

Two to the tanks (that kills all my tanks) and the rest to the infantry, please.

[The_Good_Captain]

@the_good_captain

Game History

Round: 19

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 18 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        5 units repaired.
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these French owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        15 infantry moved from Switzerland to Burgundy
        14 infantry moved from Lorraine to Burgundy
        2 artilleries moved from Belgium to Alsace
        1 infantry moved from Munich to Alsace
        1 infantry moved from Belgium to Lorraine
        1 infantry moved from Holland to Belgium
        2 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Munich to Switzerland
        16 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich
        17 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover
        4 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Tatarstan to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Moscow to Tatarstan

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Burgundy
            Germans attack with 21 artilleries, 10 fighters, 62 infantry and 5 tanks
            French defend with 17 artilleries, 62 infantry and 2 tanks
                Germans roll dice for 21 artilleries, 10 fighters, 62 infantry and 5 tanks in Burgundy, round 2 : 34/98 hits, 43.17 expected hits
                French roll dice for 17 artilleries, 62 infantry and 2 tanks in Burgundy, round 2 : 43/81 hits, 39.83 expected hits
            Units damaged: 5 tanks owned by the Germans
                38 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 tanks owned by the French and 32 infantry owned by the French lost in Burgundy
            French and Germans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is -6
            Casualties for Germans: 38 infantry
            Casualties for French: 32 infantry and 2 tanks

    Combat Move - Germans

    Place Units - Germans
        18 infantry placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 3.17
Germans regular : -9.17

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[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst G19updated.tsvg forgot to put my Austrians back into Albania - fixed in this one

[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain

OK, I think I will have to capitulate here. Too many losses and my desperate plans didn’t work out! My thoughts on the game:

I think I didn’t use my forces effectively enough. I couldn’t break through the German lines (although maybe that was because I did do some risky maneuvers which cost a lot of units…). I also couldn’t defeat the Ottomans. I am not sure how I could have done things differently this time. You somehow managed to defend against everything very well, and then you started slowly pushing me back. Or I am just bad at the game :)
How did your other games fair against other Entente players? Did they manage to beat you? And if so, how? How do you play the Entente?

If I really need to point out some things I should have done differently, it’s going to be these:
Entente has to destroy a CP power, I think, by concentrating all of its forces against it. Germany is too strong to take down easily, so it got to be Turkey. I would say, max British income is spent in India. USA also fully commits to destroying Turkey. But still, the Austro-Hungarians can help defend. Not sure who will come out on top. But if the Entente manages to defeat them, I think their economic advantage will result in a victory.

Anyway, thanks for playing. You played very well. If you want to play another game, and you want me to play the Entente or the Central Powers, feel free to ask. I would be glad to play again.

[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst said in 1914 TGC (Central Powers) vs VF (Entente) oob, no bid, RR:

@the_good_captain

OK, I think I will have to capitulate here. Too many losses and my desperate plans didn’t work out! My thoughts on the game:

I think I didn’t use my forces effectively enough. I couldn’t break through the German lines (although maybe that was because I did do some risky maneuvers which cost a lot of units…). I also couldn’t defeat the Ottomans. I am not sure how I could have done things differently this time. You somehow managed to defend against everything very well, and then you started slowly pushing me back. Or I am just bad at the game :)

I have (now) played many, many games of 1914 (over 30 in the last six months as of this writing against eight different players). As we played through this game, I learned what the pressure points were in those other games and where advantage can be gained slightly for the CP. You played quite well in fact.

How did your other games fair against other Entente players? Did they manage to beat you? And if so, how? How do you play the Entente?

I have been beaten as the CP, yes - there appear to be two ways to do this. One is raw numbers. Essentially every power except the UK builds only infantry. The USA builds only eight transports. The Western and Italian fronts become clogged with troops and the CP fail to break them down. The British meanwhile grind through the Ottomans and break into Austria causing a concession. The other is to be very aggressive with essentially all the powers. This will result in more losses and appears to be a bit dicer but the theme here is that the fighting is done on the western front much closer to germany and so the economy helps to replace the losses. I have been beaten by both these strategies and defeated both of them.

If I really need to point out some things I should have done differently, it’s going to be these:
Entente has to destroy a CP power, I think, by concentrating all of its forces against it. Germany is too strong to take down easily, so it got to be Turkey. I would say, max British income is spent in India. USA also fully commits to destroying Turkey. But still, the Austro-Hungarians can help defend. Not sure who will come out on top. But if the Entente manages to defeat them, I think their economic advantage will result in a victory.

The unique thing you did was spam transports for the USA (I have never seen anything close to that many - at first I was critical but the endgame was more interesting than I thought). You also overstrengthed france in africa. Usually all those territories I see go to the UK which helps them beat down Ottomans. Finally, as soon as you were able I think you should have sent the UK into Constantinople. It might have hurt a bit but I wasn’t strong enough to hold yet and Ottomans would have lost 6 IPC. Instead I was able to crank out 3 pieces each turn.

Anyway, thanks for playing. You played very well. If you want to play another game, and you want me to play the Entente or the Central Powers, feel free to ask. I would be glad to play again.

Anytime my friend. Shall we go again?! Thank you very much for the game and the offer!

[VictoryFirst]

@the_good_captain

Sure! Shall I play the Entente again?

30 games? That’s a lot in that time frame! I’ve only played two at this point… and both of them were as the Entente. I haven’t even looked at some of the possible CP strategies.

I thought that having a lot of transport as the United States would be flexible and give me options later on. When I have a big blob of US units sitting in a territory and also have a couple of extra transports around, I could threaten to land in coastal territories, especially the Ottoman ones. Eventually, it didn’t work out, as you had a very large amount of units helping to defend Maybe I should have risked a full attack on Constantinople with the British, but I found the attack a bit dicey, so I waited until I got more units involved. But you had access to more reinforcements than I thought, so the odds only went worse!

In our next game, I will try out some new things as the Entente, keeping the mistakes I made in the previous games in mind. I am interested to see how it will play out.

[The_Good_Captain]

@victoryfirst I will get one started up here shortly.