I really don’t believe that a KBF strategy is all to effective, too many variables, and it’s too easy for the UK to anticipate your moves.
Instead I believe in a “Beat the UK into a bloody pulp and leave it do die on it’s stupid island :evil: :evil: :evil:” strategy (no offense to my neighbors across the pond :-D). Which is basically taking everything except Britain itself, blockade it, and wait for the Allies to concede.
@Corbeau:
For the UK strat, it’s very doable but you need a baltic carrier and France IC on G1. This leaves you with a weak Eastern front so it’s a race before Russia becomes too dangerous. If Japan and Italy are correctly played however, you can stall russians long enough to gain control of Atlantic. Anyways, I’ll post details later.
This. If you’re serious about building atlantic fleet as germany, IC in france is a must G1. Building a baltic carrier helps but you don’t really have the planes yet to reinforce it, plus its usually STUCK in the baltic SZ for the rest of the game. It distracts britain and protects Germany, but the Allies can ignore it if they want to and go after Africa. Building some inf with the remainder IPCs G1 is what I usually do. You can generally build a naval stack in the med G2 and get reinforcements from italy, and hopefully japan by turn 3, if axis can take out egypt and run through the suez in time. If Axis can grab most of africa and hold onto it for a few turns, the fleet was generally worth it. Keep the Allies out of the med, and Russia is a cakewalk!
To build any German naval units is usually not helpful, and kill UK first will only happen as an AAR sealion project, means it’s only doable against players who have not played the game before and is learning…
If Germany is doing fine during the first rnds and builds IC in France, and if the Italian navy is not killed before rnd3-4, I can see Germany dropping naval units in the south if the fleet can survive, but a heavy German naval strat is doomed to fail against decent allied players, b/c Russia will be too strong.
@Subotai:
To build any German naval units is usually not helpful, and kill UK first will only happen as an AAR sealion project, means it’s only doable against players who have not played the game before and is learning…
If Germany is doing fine during the first rnds and builds IC in France, and if the Italian navy is not killed before rnd3-4, I can see Germany dropping naval units in the south if the fleet can survive, but a heavy German naval strat is doomed to fail against decent allied players, b/c Russia will be too strong.
That is why I think if you want to advocate something crazy like a Kill UK first, Italy is the country you really have to look at. Germany has to attempt to sink all the UK navy and probably do a T1 naval build big enough to distract the UK from Italy (subs or a carrier most likley) after that is has to make sure to build 1 air unit a turn to send to the West (hopefully bombers to keep SBRing UK/ keeping US transports at bay), while Japan has to go HEAVY towards the WUSA and if it can spare it India and Australia, to try and keep US out of Africa and hopefully hit some UK IPC’s, also you may have to get that Japanese Carrier to the Med as fast as possible. Italy then would have to pray it can win enough to secure Africa and build a fleet in time to seriously threaten the UK, probably take Brazil in the process too. You have to do this and hope somehow someway Germany can still stave off Russia and Japan can make some mainland in roads. I don’t think it’s a good strat, but it is the best I can think of.
And if you think that is too much of a long shot, the only other thing I can think of is to once again have the Japs threaten the US as much as they can while still hopefully having enough to gain ground in asia. But instead try to hit with Germany. You still shouldn’t start off with Navel builds. The Germans have to build air at 1st I think to try and clear the Brits. Then if you can pull off a double hit with Italy/Germany on the UK. I think this is a bit more far fetched to an already far fetched strat, but still if you want to try something crazy…
Honestly kill UK first is just way too difficult. A kill America 1st strat would even be easier I think. Now if you want to do a cripple UK strat and make them irrelevant, that is much much more feasible.
