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  • Baltic transport FTW.



  • If you are giving me $17…

    1 SUB SZ8
    1 INF Belo
    1 INF Ukraine
    1 INF Libya

    So much for any early moves by either Russia OR UK against Germany…


  • 2018 2017 '16 '11 Moderator

    I still crush Ukraine in that, Switch.  :oops:

    17 IPC?  4 Infantry, 1 Armor in Libya

    Buy: 3 Transports, 1 Aircraft Carrier.  Always wanted to do that!



  • Yes, you do get Ukraine… BARELY.  And it costs you a lot to do it (all your starting ARM)

    But you can;t get Belo, and the German’s are sitting pretty with an extra INF at the front, and an extra Russian dead in the Ukraine strike.  I get Egypt a little stronger, and I get to sink the UK fleet at start.

    So, Germany is stronger against Russia, UK is slowed an entire turn (or more), and Africa goes Germany faster, more completely, and for a longer period of time.  HELL of a gain for Germany.


  • 2018 2017 '16 '11 Moderator

    It costs me all my armor to get Ukraine anyway.  It’s only a matter of do I loose it on the attack (dropping to 2 armor winning) or on the defense (1 artillery, 3 armor, or just 3 armor normally.)

    Eitherway, I loose 28 IPC, you loose 31-34 IPC depending on the defense dice on Germany 1.  Net effect on the land is 0, I get 3 IPC but you get it as well.



  • Actually, your odds of taking Ukraine drop by 8% with the extra INF present at the start of R1.

    And the loss of an extra Russian ARM on R1 means that Germany takes less damage on the counter-attack, so Germany wins TWICE from 1 INF.


  • 2007 AAR League

    assuming it gets a hit in defense



  • I am speaking of averages here…

    And it is not the INF that creates the extra Russian deaths, it is the FIG and ARM living longer with the extra fodder AND the extra single roll of a 2 which gives you a 33% chance of an extra death in and of itself.


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