and most importantly, the italians are better spaghetti makers than allies. If you have a choice, pick anyone else.
Only we Italians are able to do spaghetti. Spaghetti made outside of Italy are good for gluing poster on the walls.
Germany instantly killed Britain
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Quick question, probably obvious. The turn a country takes back their capital, they start collecting income again… right?
Also, I am playing a game at DAAK, and am in a very interesting situation with LOTS of cool possibilities, regarding a situation similar to the one we are discussing (not with LRA, but with a similar chance of taking out UK) , I was wondering if there is a way I can post an ABattlemap here for people to see and offer opinions.
Mateooo -
Quick question, probably obvious. The turn a country takes back their capital, they start collecting income again… right?
Yes.
Although since the taking-back of the capital happened after the Purchase New Units phase, the player must wait (and hold that capital!) until their next turn to purchase and mobilize new units.
Nothing hurts more than losing your capital and a stack of cash, taking back your capital, collecting income, and then getting recaptured again to lose the cash before you even have a chance to purchase new units.
~Josh
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Also, I am playing a game at DAAK, and am in a very interesting situation with LOTS of cool possibilities, regarding a situation similar to the one we are discussing (not with LRA, but with a similar chance of taking out UK) , I was wondering if there is a way I can post an ABattlemap here for people to see and offer opinions.
MateoooYup, just click “Additional Options” and then you’ll see how to attach a file. I’m interested to see your situation. Or just PM me or e-mail me.
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Situation is, Japan has completed turn, destroying Pearl Harbor fleet losing only a SUB, with AC 2 FTR DD and BB remaining, so US doesnt have a play on hitting PH. Russia had some fairly bad rolls in UKR and WRU, retreating to conserve ARM. GER took EGY, which was taken back by UK.
US Turn is still pending (my opponent is being pokey). After that, Russia will go then my turn, as Germany Turn 2[attachment deleted by admin]
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Actually the US DOES have a viable Pearl counter. It would be expensive, but cost Japan far more than the US.
And I do not see the risk to UK on that map… not any REAL risk anyway… There is a fleet in the way, forces in UK, and some of your AF our of range of both battles. Also, USA has not moved yet, and that means potential reinforce of UK…
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Also, I am playing a game at DAAK, and am in a very interesting situation with LOTS of cool possibilities, regarding a situation similar to the one we are discussing (not with LRA, but with a similar chance of taking out UK) , I was wondering if there is a way I can post an ABattlemap here for people to see and offer opinions.
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Situation is, Japan has completed turn, destroying Pearl Harbor fleet losing only a SUB, with AC 2 FTR DD and BB remaining, so US doesnt have a play on hitting PH. Russia had some fairly bad rolls in UKR and WRU, retreating to conserve ARM. GER took EGY, which was taken back by UK.
US Turn is still pending (my opponent is being pokey). After that, Russia will go then my turn, as Germany Turn 21. Wait until Germany 1 to see if attack on UK is viable.
2. If I understand that map correctly, your opponent REALLY sucks. The only thing I see right is the recapture of Anglo-Egypt.
3. Well, either 2., or you had some kind of gigantic German bid.
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Or bad dice.
But yeah, if the US reinforces UK, there’s no chance of taking UK.
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Yeah, if USA reinforces, don’t try it. But if the UK looks the same on Germany’s turn, I reckon you’ve got a decent chance at taking it (1 inf, 1 tank, 5 fighters, 1 bomber vs 1 tank, 1 art, 2 inf), just be prepared to lose most of your fighters.
I think the shock factor of losing UK so early generally rocks most intermediate players and he may give up there and then.
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@ncscswitch:
There is a fleet in the way
Not for the southern forces. He can use the fighters in the baltic fleet to attack UK without engaging the UK fleet
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Yeah, if USA reinforces, don’t try it. But if the UK looks the same on Germany’s turn, I reckon you’ve got a decent chance at taking it (1 inf, 1 tank, 5 fighters, 1 bomber vs 1 tank, 1 art, 2 inf), just be prepared to lose most of your fighters.
I think the shock factor of losing UK so early generally rocks most intermediate players and he may give up there and then.
Actually, as it is now, chances are you’d only lose two planes, possibly three. One plane to the AA, and one or two more in combat. With a BB shot and all that firepower the battle should only last one round.
Also take into account though that you will lose your Med. BB.
How did you get one or two extra Ftrs? I count 7 total, when Germany starts with 6 and one is often killed in Ukraine in R1.
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@froodster:
Actually, as it is now, chances are you’d only lose two planes, possibly three.
Yeah, that’s true. Statistically that’s what would happen. But I’m ever a pessimist when it comes to dice in A&A. I always expect to lose more than the stats tell me - that way I’m not so dissapointed when I do lose those fighters. :wink: :-D
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My opponent doesnt suck by my estimation, but you were right, he had some unlucky rolls in Ukraine and WRU and decided to pull back to conserve his armour, statistically I believe he made some tough but probably correct decisions, and now has a very offensive Russian army.
Second, the 7th fighter was purchased turn one, and placed on the new AC.
My thought on the UK invasion is several fold.
If US reinforces with land troops, then Germany has a VERY good chance to destroyed the US reinforcing fleet (1 BB 1 SS 1 TRN plus several planes versus 2 TRN 1 DD.
In addition, GER can then simultaneously destroy the entire british navy (2 SS 1 DD 1 AC 1 TRN, up to 5 FTR and 1 BOM vs 1 AC 1 BB 1 TRN 1 DD 2 FTR) and 1 UK BOM in Africa in the same turn. He chose to sacrifice the BOM in the take back of EGY, and landed the India FTR on the AC off EGY, to save it against JAP… not what my choice would have been, but I see what his intention was. I had a 2 INF bid to LIB and if he had landed the FTR with the BOM to protect it, his 1 AC and 1 TRN would have been easily killed by JAP Turn 1, as his DD was killed killing the Jap TRN. Additionally, he left IND protected with 1 AA and 2 INF, keeping it for one more turn at least.So he CAN prevent the UK invasion, but only by sacrificing the US and UK fleet, or by throwing 1 TRN to z 12.
if instead he chooses to reinforce UK with only US planes, GER has about a 90% chance of taking UK, but can’t take out the UK fleet.If Russia decides to consolidate the entire army in WRU, Germany would also have another option to ignore the heavy strike against the british fleet, and instead destroy the WRU army, with about 7 ARM and planes surviving.
I know I still have to wait for RUS and US, but its fun exploring the possibiilities. When he finishes his turns, I will post it.
How would you defend as US? sacrifice the US fleet and reinforce UK? Regardless of what Russia does, I should be able to retake any important russian gains without the use of the German airforce, and Russian planes cant reinforce UK.
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To destroy both Allied fleets would slow the Allies 1 turn, at the cost of your navies and some AF.
With Russia sitting with what you call an “offensive force”, I am not sure that delay is enough to make the risk worthwhile.
Alternates thoughts:
The Brazil grab to distract the US
Backdoor entry into Africa via FWA
A WCan strike, again to distract America (though not as effective since the US usually comes through WCan to Europe anyway)
Back-blast with the Med Fleet into T-JAnd still take out the UK fleet with your Baltic forces plus a few AF, losing Navy before AF.
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Since I am a big wuss, I will probably be conservative, taking out the UK fleet, maybe sending a BOM to take out the stray UK TRN or the US fleet with a SS, then back the Med fleet to take out the DD, make a 2 INF 1 FTR strike against EGY to try to close the Suez canal, and FTR the BOM.
If done strongly enough, the UK fleet battle can be done possibly without plane loss (7 FTR 1 BOM 2 SS 1 DD 1 AC 1 TRN vs 1 CV 2 FTR 1 BB 1 DD 1 TRN 1SS), and perhaps keeping the AC (otherwise 2 FTR die anyways without anyplace to land, from Lib). In that case, i’d sacrifice 2 planes for just that reason, keeping an CV and DD alive instead, keeping a GER fleet that cant be taken out turn 2 (2 FTR CV and DD, and UK no longer has any planes, and US planes from East Canada cant help.
Also the Russian sub can prevent a UK attack moving to zone 12, but that only makes the UK navy more vulnerable. And then that US fleet, 1 DD and 2 TRN, is a sitting duck for a GER SS and a few FTR or BOM.
BTW, UK also has 1 TRN 1 SS carrying 2 INF east of new zealand, so a UK fleet loss is partially offset by a decent fleet merging off the west coast of Africa (1 SS 2 TRN 1 AC 1 FTR) and slowing making its way back home.
mateooo
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As for this called glitch that helped bring about LHTR rules, “Operation Sealion” was a historical possibility that could very well have been successful during ww2, so i say if Germany wants to attempt this on G1 then “Bring it on”.If i’m playing Allies and Sealion fails then i will annihilate Germany with “wrath of god” style and a smile on my face :evil:.If it succeeds (which i’ve never seen in any of the many,many games i’ve played) then i will take it as a challenge to get back on top of the axis powers.If i’m playing Germany, although i doubt i’d ever attempt the operation, it’s nice to know that it will be in the back of the allies mind as a potential distraction.This game should be all about possibilities, lets not limit them because we are worried about having the war end to soon, just restart and play again :-D.
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Heh… I did this on my very first revised game on G2. I spent more like 30 bucks for research tho, still, it was worth it. I was able to hold off any naval assault on germany, england lost two rounds of cash, and in the mean time japan just took over.
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@ncscswitch:
How about this option…
Germany has no forces on the board, but we’ll give you $200 to spend on G1.
How fair is that? How much fun would that be?
A German sack of UK on G1 would be about as fun as a USSR sack of Germany on R1.
I’ve done this game!
It was classic, but it’d probably go just as bad for the Axis in revised. Everyone get’s their unit’s worth in IPCs and can spend and place them however they want. (Inclides AA Guns and Industrial Complexes.)
We also did it with mobile capitals. (-6 from original capital territory + 6 to new capital territory.)
Want to see the mayhem of an American capital in Sinkiang; British capital in India; Russian Capital in Yakut?
That is an awesome idea! I’m gonna have to try that!
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