13L G40 Hobo (Allies+9) vs Amon-Sul (Axis) 2nd game

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Sikang

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Sikang
                Chinese attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                Chinese win, taking Sikang from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery

Non Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Tsinghai

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 5 PUs total

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 81 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 81 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 armour moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Saudi Arabia to Iraq
            4 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Iraq
            1 artillery moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 artillery moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
                  Chinese take Szechwan from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
                  Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese

Combat - British
            Battle in Iraq
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 7 infantry
                British win, taking Iraq from Germans with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Germans: 7 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
                British attack with 3 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                1 mech_infantry owned by the British retreated to Egypt
                Germans win with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                Casualties for British: 2 mech_infantrys
            Battle in Persia
                British attack with 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                British win, taking Persia from Germans with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Iraq: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Persia: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Persia: 1 tactical_bomber
                EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Saudi Arabia: 1 tactical_bomber
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 destroyers moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt
            3 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
            6 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
            1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
            1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
            2 fighters moved from Shan State to India
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Yunnan
            1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Brazil to Colombia
            3 infantry moved from Brazil to Colombia
            1 infantry moved from Brazil to Colombia
            5 infantry moved from Argentina to Bolivia
                  British take Bolivia from Neutral_True

Place Units - British
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 106 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 85 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4
            British collect 43 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 43 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

[Amon-Sul]

You smashed me there in Iraq, but suffered a defeat at Trans-Jordan. Hope remains then.

[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 aaGun moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            4 transports moved from 100 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bulgaria to Turkey
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to 97 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
            1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Albania
            1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 cruisers moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece

Place Units - Italians
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs total
            Objective Italians 3 North Africa: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 31 PUs

Territory Summary for Italians :

Alexandria : 1 flag
    Gibraltar : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Morocco : 1 flag
    Algeria : 1 flag
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Syria : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
    Tunisia : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Tobruk : 1 aaGun and 1 mech_infantry
    Albania : 1 artillery
    Northern Italy : 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major and 5 infantry
    Southern Italy : 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 1 harbour
    Turkey : 1 mech_infantry
    85 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Greece : 2 fighters
    99 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 4 cruisers and 4 transports

[Amon-Sul]

A heavy defeat was there in Iraq, but al-Assad is still holding his ground :)

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 airfield and 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
                  Chinese take Kweichow from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
                  Chinese take Hunan from Japanese
            1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            1 bomber moved from Shan State to Borneo

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Borneo
                ANZAC attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                ANZAC win, taking Borneo from Japanese with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from French Indo China to 46 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Shan State to New Guinea
            1 bomber moved from Borneo to Yunnan

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 airfield placed in New Guinea
            1 destroyer placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 18 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Combat Move - French

Combat - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 6

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 aaGun, 7 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Saudi Arabia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Spain to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 87 Sea Zone to French West Africa
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to United Kingdom
            1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Spain to United Kingdom

[Amon-Sul]

Awaiting interception orders

[hobo]

no intercepts

I was told triplea doesn’t do the aa right for sbr so as have to roll it here and edit the results. basically roll for each tac/bomber per target then roll surviving damage. from what I was told, triplea lets you choose aa hits, which isn’t right. aa guns specifically target each. if it was just one air type vs 1 target then it wouldn’t matter.

[Amon-Sul]

@hobo:

no intercepts

I was told triplea doesn’t do the aa right for sbr so as have to roll it here and edit the results. basically roll for each tac/bomber per target then roll surviving damage. from what I was told, triplea lets you choose aa hits, which isn’t right. aa guns specifically target each. if it was just one air type vs 1 target then it wouldn’t matter.

This is from the Rules, 2nd edition
Each industrial complex, air base, and naval base has its
own antiaircraft system. If there is an AAA (antiaircraft
artillery) unit in the targeted territory, don’t roll for
it. Those units are used to protect combat units. Each
complex and base rolls one die against each bomber
directly attacking it (regardless of the number of
bombers). For each “1” rolled, a bomber of the attacker’s
choice is immediately removed.
After resolving the antiaircraft fire, surviving bombers
each roll one die. Add 2 to each die rolled for a strategic
bomber (but not for tactical bombers), then total the
results. To mark the damage done by the attacking
bomber(s), place 1 gray plastic chip under the targeted
industrial complex or base per damage point rolled.
An industrial complex can’t receive more than 20 total
damage for major industrial complexes and more than
6 total damage for minor ones. Air bases and naval
bases can’t receive more than 6 total damage. Damage
exceeding these limits is not applied.
A bomber that performed a strategic or tactical bombing
raid can’t participate in any other combat this turn and
must return to a friendly territory during the Noncombat
Move phase.

[Amon-Sul]

Shall i proceed with the standard triple a bombing?

[hobo]

no, the issue is triplea rolls all the aa at once then you decide what is lost when hit. it shouldn’t be like that.

for example if you use 2 tac on 1 airbase, 1 tac on port, and 3 bombers on the complex, you need to specify and roll for each target individually.  if triplea handles it, a hit could be chosen from any of the air, but it could be important the port not get hit for example. if that port aa hits, then you could not damage the port instead of choosing a loss elsewhere.

[Amon-Sul]

@hobo:

no, the issue is triplea rolls all the aa at once then you decide what is lost when hit. it shouldn’t be like that.

for example if you use 2 tac on 1 airbase, 1 tac on port, and 3 bombers on the complex, you need to specify and roll for each target individually.  if triplea handles it, a hit could be chosen from any of the air, but it could be important the port not get hit for example. if that port aa hits, then you could not damage the port instead of choosing a loss elsewhere.

But if I use all of my aircraft at bombing the IC ? Then I as the attacker choose the casualty.

[Amon-Sul]

@hobo:

no, the issue is triplea rolls all the aa at once then you decide what is lost when hit. it shouldn’t be like that.

for example if you use 2 tac on 1 airbase, 1 tac on port, and 3 bombers on the complex, you need to specify and roll for each target individually.  if triplea handles it, a hit could be chosen from any of the air, but it could be important the port not get hit for example. if that port aa hits, then you could not damage the port instead of choosing a loss elsewhere.

Each industrial complex, air base, and naval base has its
own antiaircraft system. If there is an AAA (antiaircraft
artillery) unit in the targeted territory, don�t roll for
it. Those units are used to protect combat units. Each
complex and base rolls one die against each bomber
directly attacking it (regardless of the number of
bombers). For each �1� rolled, a bomber of the attacker�s
choice is immediately removed.

Are U sure that i can only choose a casualty if i attack the same building? Probably so , but just to be sure…

[Amon-Sul]

ok 3 bombers and 2 tac will atack the IC

and 1 tac will attack airfield

[Amon-Sul]

for IC

Rolls: 5@1; Total Hits: 05@1: (2, 3, 4, 2, 2)

for airfield

Rolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 11@1: (1)

[Amon-Sul]

Damage for IC

bombers

Rolls: 3@1; Total Hits: 13@1: (1, 2, 5)

tac.bombers

Rolls: 2@1; Total Hits: 02@1: (2, 2)

[Amon-Sul]

So bombers
1+2=3
2+2=4
5+2=7
(16)

tac
2
2
(4)

all together 20 IPC  8-)

[Amon-Sul]

sorry i forgot that the tacticals can not bomb IC. so airfield with them

that means

16 IPC dmg for IC and 4 for airfield