This is the deal: all American wars for the last century were, in principle, defensive ones. If China invaded its nieghbors, we COULD and WOULD bomb their armies a step past pergatory, because the US doesn’t want their land. On the other hand, China would never nuke South Korea, something that they DO want…
And a side note… I’ve studied about what China’s military was like in the late sixties… if the US HAD BEEN ALLOWED to win the Vietnam war, we could have sent 10 Divisions, (Which we DID have) fought north along the coastline, turned left, and NOT STOPPED UNTIL TURKMENISTAN. China coulda shoulda woulda been toast.
Yea, good point city.
The truly biggest reason that Veitnam was the horrible mess that is was, is becuase our government turned it into too much of a political war. We had politicians with wAY too much influence on our military strategy and what we should do next. With better leadership, our Veitnam could have turned out to be a much brighter picture.
A war between China and Russia would go Nuclear. Got that out of another Tom Clancy book ) (reading Executive Order now)
Why does Tom Clancy have such a following. I enjoy his books but dont think that just because he wrote something it will come true. I read a fiction book on Area 51, but I dont think there are aliens and little green men running around.
Rogue Spear is a tight T.C. book.
Dont get me wrong, they are good books.
I know what your saying Jazz
I think T.C. popularity is do to the fact that he considered an expert in reguards to the military.
And he’s stories may hide hidden truths……er something like that anyway.
His stories bring a sense of what could be.
The whole 9/11 thing is something that I could have seen TC writting about.
A war between China and Russia would go Nuclear. Got that out of another Tom Clancy book ) (reading Executive Order now)
i repeat: “The bear and the dragon”.
If “conflict” (I’m still vague as to exactly what you mean by this) is to occur between China and America, then I don’t think it would be between the Peoples’ Republic of China. Many analyst, economist, and fellow Chinese place the fall of the PRC in 15 years. However, I wish for no war. A war with China would have to mean total war with a country whose economy is predicted to blossom in 2008-2010. China also has the largest army in the world (not to mention a nigh-inexhaustible pool of manpower) and is rapidly making gains at modernizing their military for the 21st Cenutry (especially beefing up their rocketry, navy, and air force).
I don’t expect that it will go nuclear though (don’t believe everything you read in the books), but in terms of human life and material cost, it will be devastating on both parts. I’m not sure either side would be able to achieve victory. At any point, I would had to see war break out between these two countries. We need the Chinese as a valuable manufacturing and trading partner just as much as we do. That relation alone is more than enough to keep both sides “friendly” with one another.
PS: After reading the post, I basically agree with everything F_alk, Crypt, and Yanny have to say. I honestly doubt that the Chinese (judging from the people here and aboard) have any real intentions of taking Taiwan. Most of that banther comes from the the old, YRC Socialist who are mostly all talk but no action. Mongolia seems doubtful too, and only Siberian has some legitimate concern, but nothing to go at war after IMHO.
CHina may have the biggest air force in the world, but that doesnt make it the best in the world. The IAF has been given the title of the best airforce in the world and the United States has the best land based military.
CHina may have the biggest air force in the world, but that doesnt make it the best in the world. The IAF has been given the title of the best airforce in the world and the United States has the best land based military.
how are you defining “best land based military”?
In terms of best trained, many countries (including our own) might give their infantry a run for its money.
At the same time, the shear numbers and organization of American ground forces is quite formidable.
I dunno, “best training” is really a subjective statement. Also there are other factors like leadership, tactics, order of battle, equipment, weapons, vehicles, logistics, ground-air support, size, ect. to factor in.
Yea, I’ll believe that.
I also think that it’s takes a combination and coordination of all your forces to really win a battle. Talk is one thing, but having your land elements, your navy, and your air-force all work together is what really wins wars.
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Yea, I’ll believe that.
I also think that it’s takes a combination and coordination of all your forces to really win a battle. Talk is one thing, but having your land elements, your navy, and your air-force all work together is what really wins wars.
Something that the US has become increasingly more adapt at in recent decades, particularly given the logistics with respects to its machine. Another lesson learned from Vietnam, it would seem, no?
Yes. Absolutely. :P
Another lesson learned from Vietnam, it would seem, no?
Nah, that lession was learned far off in World War II. It’s just that some people decided on “small potatoes” and neglected it during the Vietnam War.
The biggest lesson learned from Nam was, IMHO of course, keep Politicians away from the war and let the soldiers fight it.
I hope China and the United States will never come into conflict. I will be torn apart… :(
The US military is definately the best equiped military in the world. Training can be debated, there are some really well trained European countries.
