On 2002-05-16 23:30, TG Moses VI wrote:
What if I am able to take Ukraine with Germany and hold it until Russia’s turn? Theoretically, that would mean I held Ukraine for over a year. Do I generate nothing from that capture?
Yes, you would generate nothing. Of course Russia would generate nothing for recapturing Ukraine…unless they still owned it at the beginning of their next turn.
Taking Ukraine may not have earned you any ipc’s, but it did prevent Russia from earning ipc’s. In a game using this rule, you would trade territories not for a quick buck, but to prevent your enemy from earning that cash.
On 2002-05-16 21:30, BubbleyMoose wrote:
If you don’t start out with any money, it doesn’t ADD realism, it takes it away. I mean, every country starts out with a certain amount of money in their treasury, so to speak.
Remember this point, you get your cash at the beginning of your turn. You then turn around and spend it. Russia would get 24 ipc’s and then buy 8 men, or whatever. Let’s say they attack and take Manchuria and Eastern Europe. They won’t get any money for those battles unless they hold the territories at the beginning of their next turn.
Now it’s Germany’s turn - they get 29 ipc’s (32 minus 3 for not owning EE). They attack a central African territory, Egypt and Syria - total value = 4. They will get 33 next turn if they hold onto them.
UK turn - they collect 26 ipc’s (30 minus 4 lost in Africa). They attack and retake Egypt.
Japan turn - they collect 22 (25 minus 3 for Manchuria). They retake Manchuria, and then take China and India - they will earn 30 if they hold.
US - collect 34 (36 minus 2 for China) and build stuff - no attacks
So on…
Total IPC’s on the board = 147 (think of this as the world’s collective production capacity).
Total amount utilized during this first round of conflict = 135. This makes sense to me - this ain’t the roaring 20’s, its war. Compare this to 155 - the amount that would have been issued under the standard rules. If the world’s total production capacity is 147, how can 155 ipc’s be issued?
As you can see, almost everyone starts out at a lower ipc level than with the standard rules, except Russia. Maybe this rule would work better in a Russia Restricted game. Of course, you could still bid for Axis, but I have no idea what a reasonable bid would be until someone play tests it.