A lot of posters seemed stunned at this scenario, never scene it ever happen or even could happen. Now that I mulled it over last night and looked at the rules and so forth it is very obvious to me why no one has ever scene this scenario. Because the scenario makes no logical sense.
Italy DOW on Russia and moves in 2 tanks into Eastern Poland.
Russia is now at war with Italy and can DOW on Germany at the start of their next turn, turn 3.
Germany on Turn 3 does not DOW on Russia and just non combats into Eastern Poland.
Russia at the start of Turn 3 DOW on Germany and off we go.There is no logical reason why Russia would not DOW on Germany at the start of Turn 3, none.
Heck you could argue that it makes no logical sense that Germany did not DOW on Russia at the start of G3 since Italy brought Russia into the war and Russia WILL DOW on Germany on R3.
Hi PainState,
From my perspective, if I was planning on doing a G3 Barbarossa AND I wanted to drive towards the south, then yes, it makes sense to not DOW. My stack will be together except for the minimum required mobile units and maybe 1 AAA in Poland so Russia doesn’t attack Poland to get their NO for occupying an Axis territory. But E. Poland will be real strong because the German air will be there and maybe bombers will also be in range of a raid on the Moscow factory. Also, 5 IPCs is more income than I’d probably get as Germany on the 1st turn.
There are a few disadvantages of course. 1, Russian blockers can’t be attacked. 2, the Scandinavian units are behind. But for me that’s ok, I just use them to lay siege anyways. I never expect to get Moscow on turn 6 anymore. I assume that the UK/Anzac and that lone French fighter are going to get to Moscow.Â
Can't win a Global game with Sea Lion
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No question about it, if UK is out of the game and the US is forced to focus on the pacific, the axis will win. I think the objective of a good axis player is to take Africa with Italy, push carefully into Russia with Germany and force the US to focus on the Pacific first with Japan. How you go about that is up to you, but it is a race against time for the axis, if Germany can take Russia before the US can land in Europe then the axis should be well on their way to a win.
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No question about it, if UK is out of the game and the US is forced to focus on the pacific, the axis will win. I think the objective of a good axis player is to take Africa with Italy, push carefully into Russia with Germany and force the US to focus on the Pacific first with Japan. How you go about that is up to you, but it is a race against time for the axis, if Germany can take Russia before the US can land in Europe then the axis should be well on their way to a win.
I think if sea lion is pulled off turn 2 because the UK player did not prepare on defense then it is worth it. Otherwise too many resources are required to take UK and Russia will be knocking on Europe’s door. If the US is in position it can normally get UK back when it enters the war with little resources.
Also is US aloud to put a fleet off the coast of New Brunswick before it is in the war? If so that means it could retake UK the turn it falls by useing the naval base. Or if US is aloud to be in New Brunswick can it not use the naval base there since UK and US are not actually allies at that point?
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I think the US is not allowed in any territory other than it’s own until a DOW has been made against it, or the turn limit expires.
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I meant just being in the sea zone that borders the naval base. Not actually entering the terriotory. I know they can’t go off the coast of Africa but I am not sure about Cananda.
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I don’t think they would be allowed to use the powers of the base because it isn’t theirs.
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Ok that makes sense. They would not be able to use it until they become allies with UK.
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the US could position troops on TR off Canada. As soon as they are at war they will be able to use the Naval base
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