Thanks.
One final question - Does Belgium touch Lorraine? IE can you attack Lorraine from Belgium. We’re split on this as and can’t really tell based on the map.
Thanks.
One final question - Does Belgium touch Lorraine? IE can you attack Lorraine from Belgium. We’re split on this as and can’t really tell based on the map.
That’s completely fine, you can ask as many questions as you can think of.
In other cases where similar map issues have come up, such as on the border between France and Spain, or in a few sea zones in the pacific, the ruling has always been: no, they are not connected.
By offsetting most sea zones or territories slightly one from another, they avoid this problem, and we see them do so in nearly all sea zones, so when the issue does come up, it is by design.
Belgium is not connected to Lorraine.
I have seen some games house rule that since Luxembourg is so small, they play it is part of Belgium, thereby making it accessible to Lorraine.
A heated debate in my group regarding the Commonwealth…
Can ANZAC send lend-lease to KMT via Hong Kong once Japan invades China?
On a side note, can the US (or other countries) also send lend-lease to KMT through Hong Kong when Japan is at war with China (but no one else)?
So I am not sure what map you guys have but I have a star on Nanking and not Beijing. I have been playing it where China loses its money once Nanking is taken. After seeing a few of the replies here I will probably change how I play that…
Can ANZAC send lend-lease to KMT via Hong Kong once Japan invades China?
On a side note, can the US (or other countries) also send lend-lease to KMT through Hong Kong when Japan is at war with China (but no one else)?
As there is a railroad that leads from Hong Kong to Guangxi, why not?
It is the same as the Burma Road that leads to Yunnan.
Note that ANZAC is considered a part of the UK, so only one (UK, FEC or ANZAC) can lend lease per turn#
So I am not sure what map you guys have but I have a star on Nanking and not Beijing. I have been playing it where China loses its money once Nanking is taken. After seeing a few of the replies here I will probably change how I play that…
Nowhere in the manual does it say that a nation loses its money once the capitol is taken.
The designer has clarified this elsewhere.
So I am not sure what map you guys have but I have a star on Nanking and not Beijing. I have been playing it where China loses its money once Nanking is taken. After seeing a few of the replies here I will probably change how I play that…
I don’t have the map in front of me. It could be in either territory, I don’t recall. Regardless, it’s functioning as a capital is only when it is a major power. 😊
A heated debate in my group regarding the Commonwealth…
Can ANZAC send lend-lease to KMT via Hong Kong once Japan invades China?
On a side note, can the US (or other countries) also send lend-lease to KMT through Hong Kong when Japan is at war with China (but no one else)?
After extensive searching, I think the answer is no to both questions.
Page 71 of the rules, FEC, “…you are the only lifeline China has to the Outside World…you control both Burma and Hong Kong…slip the Chinese a little money to ensure their survival.”
Because FEC and ANZAC are Military Divisions of Great Britain (Forming the Commonwealth) and share Technology and Lend/Lease Restrictions, we have determined that they can Lend/Lease through Hong Kong. Otherwise, the three would be split and not share Tech/Restrictions etc.
We are undecided on USA lendlease through Hong Kong. However, it clearly states that Germany/Italy can lend-lease through France to Spain (if France allows it) so why can this not apply to USA to KMT via Hong Kong? It meets the factory-to-port/port-to-port/rail-to-territory requirement?
The only instance I have determined where you take a country’s bank is when Paris surrenders to the Germans :
“Free France: The French player creates Free France by
moving the capital as detailed on the French National Reference
Sheet. All IPP currently in possession of the French player are
surrendered to the Axis.”
To Munck, rule 9.20 on page 48 I believe says that, “A nation that loses its capital loses all of its saved IPPs (even if it does not technically surrender). Some nations can set up a second capital.” For sure you do not give your IPPs to the conquering nation except in the case of Germany forcing France to surrender, you just lose the IPPs to the bank once your capital is taken.
ï‚· Burma Road: The Burma road opens on July 1938 if Japan and China are at war and Yunnan is in Possession of the Allies. The Burma Road may be used as a way to deliver foreign lend-lease material to the KMT once KMT is at war with a major power. The lend lease arrives in Yunnan. China may use its own money to purchase artillery and antiaircraft. These must be placed in Yunnan. This part that say’s " The lend lease arrives in Yunnan" means that any and all lend lease is and has to arrive in Yunnan. These are specific rules to China’s KMT and any regular game rules on lend lease do not apply because these rules are only specific to China’s KMT . Doesn’t matter that Hong Kong is closer etc etc.
Burma Road: The Burma road opens on July 1938 if Japan and China are at war and Yunnan is in Possession of the Allies. The Burma Road may be used as a way to deliver foreign lend-lease material to the KMT once KMT is at war with a major power. The lend lease arrives in Yunnan. China may use its own money to purchase artillery and antiaircraft. These must be placed in Yunnan. This part that say’s " The lend lease arrives in Yunnan" means that any and all lend lease is and has to arrive in Yunnan. These are specific rules to China’s KMT and any regular game rules on lend lease do not apply because these rules are only specific to China’s KMT . Doesn’t matter that Hong Kong is closer etc etc.
The part you refer to is only if using The Burma Road to deliver Lend Lease. You may also use any other mean available to deliver Lend Lease to KMT.
I am referring to prior to the Burma Road opening, with Hong Kong being the only available port for Lend Lease to be sent to the KMT (the actual KMT ports having been taken by the Japanese).
I don’t see how that can be allowed if Japan is at war with only China? and you wanna lend lease troops to China VIA. going into Hong Kong? While the FEC are still " Neutral" to Japan? I don’t see how that can be allowed to have foreign units " placed on neutral soil" I don’t think you can lend lease on behalf of another nation and take it into their port while remaining neutral. If prior to the " opening of the Burma road" and China is invaded some time before July 38 Then KMT has whatever ports made available to them. That is there own ports.
I am referring to prior to the Burma Road opening, with Hong Kong being the only available port for Lend Lease to be sent to the KMT (the actual KMT ports having been taken by the Japanese).
I agree that this should be possible.
Burma road lend lease, occurs regardless of FEC war status, including lend lease from US via burma road while US not at full income yet. China at war with a major power the only requirement for British or US to send lend lease to it. Dont need to be aligned.
If one is allowed both should be allowed. Situation is the same.
This is one of artifical historical mirrorings that over scripts the game if you don’t allow it. History is interesting but the whole point of these games is to see how YOU would try to change history.
From the rules:
Lend-Lease: A system by which Major Powers may lend IPPs and units to other nations who are at war without the lender necessarily being at war themselves.
From the USA Country Card:
Can Lend-Lease to: Answer:
China KMT Once KMT is at war with a Major Power.
Britain / France At 15 IPP
USSR Once the USSR is at war with the Axis.
From the rules Page 69 (talking about Spanish Nationalist Tips):
The French may allow the Germans to use their rails for lend-lease units.
So, deduction - The US may Lend-Lease to KMT via the port in Hong Kong once Japan invades China.
The Commonwealth (IE Anzac) may Lend-Lease to KMT via the port in Hong Kong once Japan Invades China.
The port in Hong Kong has a rail that moves in Guangxi Clique.
Correct me if I am wrong?
So - an interesting one that we’ve come across.
When USSR and UK/USA are at war with Germany:
Can UK/USA move troops into USSR territory?
If Germans Occupy USSR Territory and the UK/USA ‘liberate’ it - does it go back to USSR or the ‘conquering’ Army?
So - an interesting one that we’ve come across.
When USSR and UK/USA are at war with Germany:
Can UK/USA move troops into USSR territory?
If Germans Occupy USSR Territory and the UK/USA ‘liberate’ it - does it go back to USSR or the ‘conquering’ Army?
First question NO.
Allies and Comintern are different alliances, and thus can never be Aligned.
Page19 4.3 Alliances and
Table 4-2 Nations that are aligned to one another may:
A)give or deny permission to enter fly over or move through straights or canals.
B)defend together in land or sea zones.
Also answered in FAQ here is the link:
http://www.globalwargame.com/www/question/spanish-civil-war-with-russia-winning/
For your second question Yes or No, depending upon the decision of the liberator.
Page 48 9.18 voluntary return: If a land zone you capture does Not belong to your Alliance you MAY return it to its original owner. (i.e. nation whose roundel is printed on the map). This is usually the case when Soviet or Allied players recapture land zones that belong to the other. To return a captured land zone simply announce your intention to do so and move all of your units from the zone. Remove your roundel and place the receiving nations roundel on the zone.
Thats pretty much what we thought, but it wasn’t entirely clear to us. Having the Comintern as a 3rd Alliance certainly adds a different dynamic to the game!
We’ve also come across an odd situation.
France has fallen and Vichy France has been created. It may well be possible for the British to land Airborne in Paris (unoccupied).
Would Paris be considered surrounded in such a state? Germany holds all territory around it EXCEPT for Vichy France, which is Neutral. I am of the opinion that this does not make it surrounded but I am not sure I am entirely correct. (And in the case of France, I assume the same thing applies in regards to who controls each zone? US/UK/French troops can all move through each others territories freely?).
Yeah comintern is a lot of fun if you can remember, its not just Russia from global 40.
As for surrounded Paris. I would agree with you. For any other city to be surrounded It must be completed surrounded by controlled players not neutrals. But this one is odd since Germany is collecting vichy income. So I can see the other option is also possible.
You must give members of your alliance their original territories. Table 4-2
Once Allies are at war with the same major power and aligned they can all move into the same land zone, Same with Axis. But it would be a declaration of war if the nations were not aligned yet. This is why Britain can’t reinforce france until they are both at war with Germany. Same applies to all other nations no mater if they are Allies, Axis or Comintern.
