1942.2 total vic. w/ int: Zombie69 (Axis) vs Commando Brado (Allies + 12)


  • Russia’s turn!


  • Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.8.0.3, time: 17:08:59


  • Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.8.0.3, time: 17:12:46


  • Loaded a 2nd file because I forgot to turn on Interceptors. Please ensure I did this correctly.

    A few things before we begin :

    #1). Fighter interceptors fire at 2, instead of 1 during SBR missions? This is different from Global.

    #2). IC’s can be built on any territory with an IPC value of 1, including islands? They are limited to producing the number of units based on the IPC value of the territory? This is also different from Global.

    We’ll play Total Victory conditions. Also, I’m assuming we’re closing SZ16 to naval movement, correct?


  • Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.8.0.3, time: 18:18:53


  • One more question, does Gibraltar block movement into and out of the Med?


  • I will use my bid to put 1 US DD in SZ12 and 1 Brit Inf in Egypt, save 1 IPC for Russia.


  • TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Russians
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 12 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Egypt: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Changing PUs for Russians from 24 to 25
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                Russians buy 1 artillery and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Russians
                1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
                1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
                1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
                1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
                1 artillery moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
                1 infantry moved from Archangel to West Russia
                1 armour moved from Archangel to West Russia
                1 artillery moved from Russia to West Russia
                1 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
                1 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
                1 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
                1 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
                1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 armour moved from Russia to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 armour moved from Russia to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 armour moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 artillery moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.


  • Nice rolling in W. Russia!  😞  😮  :x  :oops:  😢  :roll:  😐


  • I will wait to do my non-combat moves until I get answers to my questions.


  • #1). Fighter interceptors fire at 2, instead of 1 during SBR missions? This is different from Global.

    Normally that would be the case, but TripleA doesn’t implement this correctly and uses the same rule as Global.

    #2). IC’s can be built on any territory with an IPC value of 1, including islands? They are limited to producing the number of units based on the IPC value of the territory? This is also different from Global.

    Indeed.

    We’ll play Total Victory conditions. Also, I’m assuming we’re closing SZ16 to naval movement, correct?

    I’ve never played with it closed but I don’t mind; I don’t think it changes much actually. In fact, I don’t even see an option in TripleA to make it closed.

    One more question, does Gibraltar block movement into and out of the Med?

    No, it doesn’t.

    Also:

    • You must uncheck Honorable Surrender, otherwise I don’t think it will be a total victory game (should have been three radio buttons, not check boxes).

    • You’re not allowed to place your bid in SZ 12, because you don’t have anything there. You can however put that destroyer in SZ 11 and that will be enough for me not to attack it.


  • Let’s play w/SZ16 being closed. I think that’s the way most people play. In Global it’s closed unless you conquer Turkey or Turkey is allied w/your side. For fighter interceptors, let’s roll these battles on the Forum. Are you familiar with how to do that? I would really like to play w/Interceptors are 2, since this is how the rules work. We can make any edits via Edit Mode. I will change the US DD from SZ12 to SZ11. I know there are two different bid rules you can play with. In Global, most players allow you to put your bids in territories or SZ’s, where you don’t have units but no worries. I’ll change it. For me to uncheck Honorable Surrender, it appears I have to start a new game file. I don’t see a way to do it with the current game. I’ll keep the same dice and will make the edits in Edit Mode and complete my non-combat moves and upload the file.


  • Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.8.0.3, time: 22:55:26


  • The FTR from Karelia that participated in the battle in W. Russia will land in Ukraine.


  • Sorry. Caucasus, not Ukraine.


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Russians
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Ukraine S.S.R.: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Ukraine S.S.R.: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Ukraine S.S.R.: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Ukraine S.S.R.: 1 artillery
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Ukraine S.S.R.: 1 armour
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Ukraine S.S.R.: 1 fighter
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans to Russians
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 1 armour
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 1 artillery
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Ukraine S.S.R.: 3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from West Russia: 1 armour
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from West Russia: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from West Russia: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from West Russia: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from West Russia: 1 artillery
                EDIT: Changing ownership of West Russia from Germans to Russians
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Karelia S.S.R.: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Karelia S.S.R.: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Karelia S.S.R.: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Karelia S.S.R.: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Karelia S.S.R.: 1 artillery
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Karelia S.S.R.: 1 fighter
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Archangel: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Archangel: 1 armour
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 artillery
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 armour
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 armour
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to West Russia: 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
                EDIT: Changing PUs for Russians from 24 to 25
                EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Egypt: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 11 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                Russians buy 1 artillery and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Non Combat Move - Russians
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Caucasus: 1 bomber
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                1 aaGun moved from Caucasus to West Russia
                1 aaGun moved from Russia to West Russia
                1 fighter moved from Russia to Egypt
                1 submarine moved from 4 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Buryatia S.S.R. to Yakut S.S.R.
                1 infantry moved from Buryatia S.S.R. to Yakut S.S.R.
                1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Yakut S.S.R.
                1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Yakut S.S.R.
                1 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Caucasus

    Place Units - Russians
                1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Caucasus
                4 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
                Russians collect 28 PUs; end with 28 PUs total

    Territory Summary for Russians :

    7 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
        Caucasus : 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 factory and 4 infantry
        Egypt : 1 fighter
        Evenki National Okrug : 2 infantry
        Karelia S.S.R. : 1 factory
        Novosibirsk : 1 infantry
        Russia : 1 factory and 4 infantry
        Ukraine S.S.R. : 1 flag, 3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        West Russia : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
        Yakut S.S.R. : 5 infantry

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Russians : 28 / 28
        Germans : 37 / 41
        British : 31 / 31
        Japanese : 30 / 30
        Americans : 42 / 42


  • @Commando:

    I would really like to play w/Interceptors are 2, since this is how the rules work. We can make any edits via Edit Mode.

    It would be a little complicated because in 1942.2, losses taken by the defender don’t shoot back during the interception phase. We could play that way anyway if you want, using edit mode. No need to roll on the forums, just use the same rolls made in game, but on a 2, delete an attacking plane and if it was a bomber, delete its SBR damage (the last SBR die rolled).

    For the SZ closed, can planes still move through? I assume they can.


  • And remember that carriers have only one hit!


  • TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
                Germans buy 1 artillery and 3 bombers; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - Germans
                1 submarine moved from 9 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 9 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
                1 battleship moved from 15 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Italy to 15 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 15 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 14 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.
                      Germans take Karelia S.S.R. from Russians
                2 infantry moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                2 infantry moved from Bulgaria Romania to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 fighter moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 fighter moved from Bulgaria Romania to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 fighter moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 fighter moved from Norway to 7 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Northwestern Europe to 7 Sea Zone
                2 submarines moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.


  • In SZ 7, I don’t know if you want to submerge your sub right away, fight for one round and submerge, or what. So the easiest for me is to let you roll that battle yourself and then you can send me the new save file!


  • @Zombie69:

    And remember that carriers have only one hit!

    Yes, got that.


  • @Zombie69:

    @Commando:

    I would really like to play w/Interceptors are 2, since this is how the rules work. We can make any edits via Edit Mode.

    It would be a little complicated because in 1942.2, losses taken by the defender don’t shoot back during the interception phase. We could play that way anyway if you want, using edit mode. No need to roll on the forums, just use the same rolls made in game, but on a 2, delete an attacking plane and if it was a bomber, delete its SBR damage (the last SBR die rolled).

    For the SZ closed, can planes still move through? I assume they can.

    Defending Interceptors don’t fire back if they’re hit during the Interception phase?

    And yes, planes can use SZ16 as a valid space for movement purposes. It’s just naval units that can’t move in or out. But, naval units can be built in SZ16, if you have an IC in Bulgaria/Romania, Ukraine or Caucasus.


  • No, in 1942.2, they can’t hit back if they’re destroyed (just like hits made by subs). Of course, since TripleA only implements Global rules for interceptors, it doesn’t take that into account.


  • Well, that’s a stupid rule. Let’s roll any SBR runs that have potential Interceptor battles via the Forum. We can post the combat movement for them via the Forum, before we roll the other battles. Then, roll the battles on the Forum before the other battles are rolled via TripleA. Then, make the edits using the Edit Mode. Sound good?

    I’ll submerge the Russian Sub. I’ll let you roll the battles. I don’t want to take that pleasure away from you…  😄


  • It’s not a stupid rule, it prevents defensive fighters from being too good. With Global rules, in order to have the same number of losses on average for the attacker and defender, you need to bring 1 plane for every defending plane. In 1942.2, with defenders hitting on a 2 but not hitting at all if destroyed, you need to bring 3 attackers for every 2 defenders. Without this, you’d need to bring 2 for 1, which would be overpowered for the defender in my opinion.

    I don’t know why you insist on rolling them in the forum though. Like I said, it will be easier to let TripleA roll them and just adjust accordingly whenever an attacker made a hit or a defender rolled a 2. TripleA shows you the dice results, so it should be very easy to adjust whenever this happens. I’ll finish my turn and send you a save.

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