DEI

@Tolstoj:

Well usually the Japanese forces converge to Yunnan, and maybe one or two units in the north.

Would you trade say 22 Japanese groundunits and 3 aircraft to 35 allied units, including the Indian airforce?

The Soviets can make a contribution as well.

You don’t have to hold Yunnan but it’s very important to always retake it.

I see what you guys are saying and I agree. I’ve been kicking around the idea to replace the $5 NO for Japanese control of Borneo, Celebes, Java and Sumatra with the following:

$5 for Japanese control of Okinawa, Formosa, Iwo Jima, Marianas, Palau, Caroline Islands and Marshall Islands. This occurs when Japan is at war with the Western Allies. So if UK and/or ANZAC declare war on Japan, with USA still neutral, then Japan will collect this NO.
I’ve also modified the $5 NO for Japanese control of Midway, Wake, Guam, Solomon Islands and Gilbert Islands. I changed it to $1 for control of each island.

I also removed the US NO of $10 for US control of Eastern US, Central US and Western US because I think that falls in the same category as the DEI NO. The continental US is worth $42 to the US all together, has all their main manufacturing plants and includes two Victory Cities, one of which is their capital. That’s more than enough incentive to not lose any of those three territories. However, I didn’t want to just take away US NO money, so I replaced it with the following:

$1 each for Allied control of the following: Midway, Wake Island, Guam, Marshall Islands, Caroline Islands, Palau, Marianas, Iwo Jima, Okinawa and Formosa. This occurs when US is at war with Japan.

So you see, there is still the possibility for the US to make the full $10 in NO money, plus 3 of the Japanese Islands are worth $1 which will be an extra bonus. Also, since 3 of the islands are already US owned, the US can still collect $3 when at war with Japan but before their offensive gets moving.
I thought that might do something to get a little more action in these valueless islands. I wonder if I ought to change Japan’s because once the US is in the war, Japan’s NO is really easy to disrupt because the Marshall Islands are close to the US and they are unguarded. Do you think that I should remove the Marshalls from Japan’s NO?

ah, looking at wrong rules. Thank you sir.

thanx for clearing that up for me

I thought they had to be at war with japan too

I see the logic now that uk and dutch are at war with germany makes them buddies

@sargon:

IS IT TRUE THAT IF JAPAN ATTACKS THE DEI’S ON TURN’S ONE OR TWO THE USA AUTOMATICALLY ENTERS THE WAR?

IF SO, THEN IS NOT JAPAN’S BEST OPTION TO JUST BUILD TRANSPORTS AND NAVAL UNITS AND POSITION ITSELF UNTIL TURN 3 OR 4 BEFORE IT UNLAODS AGAINST DEI, UK, AND AMERICA?

It is not true that the USA “automatically” enters the war.

It is true that it ALLOWS the USA to declare war on the following US turn, which it WILL do in order to collect its income bonuses.  But it’s not automatic.

Unless the UK or Anzac declared war on Japan first, or in case they moved a unit into china (which requires a declaration of war against Japan as well).

As for best option, that depends ENTIRELY on the board conditions: If the UK leaves vital naval assets vulnerable or spreads itself thin, then, no, it might actually be better to attack early.  Also, J3 is really the last chance to declare war as the US will collect income on US3 regardless, so there’s usually absolutely no reason not to declare war on the US on J3 unless the US is positioning naval assets, depending on Japan to declare war on the US and therefore be blocked by US units.  Otherwise, J4 is usually too late.

@17Mark71:

Or Dale Earnhardt Inc.

True, you NASCAR junkie.

I see not even you are willing to look into the quagmire of that thread, to extract an answer.

You also need to understand completely, that the FAQ changes like underwear, one minute it’s this way, the next minute it’s alpha this, beta that.

The latest inclination is that an UNPROVOKED attack on the U.K. / DEI brings the U.S>A. into the war.  Mantlefan is right.

Before I believe it was just a declaration of war that would suffice.

Yes.