• I think if sicily was made two IPCs, and Libya was 2 IPCs, and germany keeps algeria, and italy is 10 (remember there is greece and the balkans in that territory.

    that way, italy makes 14, three infantry and a tank.

    I would be very interested to play a game like this, but splitting the german axis might severely hurt the axis. That is why i support 3 ipcs in lybia. but if that hurt the historical damage. How about making albania and greece a seperate italian holding worth 3 ipcs? IMO italy has to make 18 IPCs to balance the new axis W/no bidding. If italy is 10, albania/greece is 3, and lybia is 2, and sicily is 2, and add a corisca on the map for 1 IPC.

    Then Italy can be a real player, and the game can be more balanced. perhaps, the allies would be forced to attack the “soft underbelly” of europe,a dn there would be no need for bidding.

    I only believe italy should go before germany is because germany would have to decide to either commit their forces to africa or to russia, depening on what italy does like the real war.
    sorry for the misspellings!

    p.s. this would be awesome for a free for all!


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    [ This Message was edited by: HortenFlyingWing on 2002-03-25 17:14 ]


  • 14-15 IPCs sounds like a good number. Here’s my suggestion Italy worth 8 IPCs (no way could it be worth more than Britain, Russia, Western Europe, or Japan even with the Balkans), Sicily wroth 2-3 IPCs, 2 Libya worth 2 IPCs, and Algeria worth 2 IPCs.


  • we would have to see how a game would play out.

    Italy had some decent aircraft made and in the works:
    http://www.comandosupremo.com/Air2.html
    http://www.comandosupremo.com/Air12.html

    and how about that navy:
    http://www.regiamarina.it/stats.htm

    they had battleships that would make all but the japanese blush

    http://www.combinedfleet.com/furashita/aquila_f.htm

    even an aircraft carrier in the works

    enjoy! the italians didn’t want to win… the italians didn’t react quick enough to destroy the british fleet, and then waited for the british to blow them away, like the swordfish bombers torpedo bombing capsizing 3 italian battleships.


  • FIAT!? I can’t believe they actually made airplanes once. Anyways, the main Italian fighter I was thinking about was the Caproni Reggiana Re 2001 Falco II (1942). Not only did this plane look right but it flew right. Deadly with it’s Alfa Romeo-built Daimler-Benz DB 601 A engines in the skills of experienced Italian pilots. I wish I had some pictures to show, it was that nice looking compared with the snub nose “Arrow.”


  • I’d like to add that http://www.combinedfleet.com is an awesome site well worth checking out by all WWII naval buffs–I know that’s at least some of you!

    Good choice, Horten…

    Ozone27


  • Great website. I was able to revisit some of my old old war buddies from the South Pacific. God just seeing pictures of the Yamoto (the biggest and most powerful battleship ever constructed) and Shinano (the biggest carrier in WWII) brings back memories. But where’s the Musashi? They didn’t give much information on it.


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    [ This Message was edited by: TG Moses VI on 2002-03-26 15:58 ]


  • i bet you can “donate” money to the website and they will find out for you :smile:


  • Ha if I really had any money to spare. I’m broke.


  • Libya 2, algeria 2, SE 10 total 14
    i can’t mke siciy a seperate country it’s to small and Eurpoe is crowded as it is

    does any one have an extra set of pieces laying around some ware, i’ll be willing to by them off you (mind you it will be in Canadian $)


  • mini check ebay thats where i got my a&a…they have this kind of stuff running all the time


  • Mini phreek is Fergus, ON near the Manitoba Border?


  • sorry 1/2 hour out side of guelph


  • how much is a board on ebay? i bought a new one for $30.


  • ah sick


  • Wow that’s a pretty good deal. Do you mean just the board or the whole thing? Anyways my reason for making Sicily worth IPCs is that it’s secure from the Allies (the Allied ships would have to circle around to Southern Europe just to reach it), Sicily was taken in the war, and the fact that I can’t see SE being worth 10 IPCs. How could it have a higher IPC value then WE or Britian, if SE was regarded as a secondary front?


  • i got mine brand new shrink wrapped on ebay for 36.50 or something after shipping……but i’m sure u could get used pieces for like $5


  • well actualy I think Italians should have about 18 IPCs, even tho it may break the historical stuff, because if you d’ont leave them enough IPCs to defend temselves properly, the Allies wil ljust rush in Europe, take both Germany and Italy, and bang, Allies have 2 capitals, game over, allied victory….


  • Yes, 18 is the way to go. add the islands italy had, whatever, they need the money :smile:

    for 30 bucks i got the whole deal…board, pieces, books, box…oh, and a plastic bag!

  • '10

    Couldn’t you give Italy Italian East Africa as well?


  • the british took all of that out in 1941 before operation crusader i believe. they took troops from egyt and aden and took it back.

    miniphreek, tell me when you finish that. maybe we can try that out on an online game when you’re finished trying it out with your friends.

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