???????????? (Axis) vs Corriganhp (Allies)- Alpha3- no tech

[corriganbp]

I would have lost my bomber along with the aa guns.

[corriganbp]

but what really has me confused is how I shot down 3 italian fighters and yet two of them are parked on the german AC

[corriganbp]

i admit that the italian ftrs on the cv are a nice move, but I think that’s a bit unfair, since you were determined to attack the british cv

[questioneer]

oh yeah- forgot- sorry about that- added and extra inf shot here.
I took the Italian ftrs off.

6tnk, 5ftr, 5tac, 2bmr
Rolls: 11@3, 7@4; Total Hits: 1011@3,: (3, 6, 1, 1, 5, 2, 5, 2, 6, 3, 4)7@4: (6, 2, 1, 5, 3, 2, 5)

def
3inf, 1mec, 3tnk, 6ftr, 1tac
Rolls: 4@2, 4@3, 6@4; Total Hits: 74@2,: (2, 3, 3, 6)4@3,: (6, 3, 1, 6)6@4: (1, 6, 3, 1, 1, 6)

[questioneer]

3ftr, 5tac, 2bmr, 1tnk
Rolls: 4@3, 7@4; Total Hits: 94@3,: (1, 1, 3, 4)7@4: (2, 2, 1, 6, 2, 1, 1)

def
4ftr
Rolls: 4@4; Total Hits: 34@4: (3, 3, 1, 5)

[corriganbp]

and you would not have provided air cover for the fleet if the italians weren’t on the cv?

in any case, you should have offered me the option to scramble.

[questioneer]

London taken

z110- first hit
1SS
Rolls: 10@2; Total Hits: 310@2: (4, 3, 5, 3, 2, 5, 2, 3, 1, 4)

def
1DD
Rolls: 10@2; Total Hits: 410@2: (5, 4, 1, 5, 1, 2, 4, 3, 2, 5)

[corriganbp]

for future reference, the italian fighters on the german AC are considered cargo during an attack, so now that I think that thru it’s probably not a good move.

[questioneer]

z110 repelled

Yes I should have offered, however you were fine with taking the CV as the causualty which surprised me.  I didn’t argue the point so I continued.  A turn after the fact was probably not the time to argue about it now that Sealion was a success.  If it was failing would you have said something???  Sounds like sour grapes to me.

I will offer you this: allow me to redo the Italian Combat Move again and then we can continue with Russia otherwise we can play on- what do you say???

NCM- on map

Placement- 9inf on Ger, 6mec, 1tnk on WGer

Convoy in z109

Rolls: 1@3; Total Hits: 11@3: (2)

[corriganbp]

What was so unfair about losing the carrier?

sour grapes?  If I don’t stick up for my right to scramble that you have ignored twice in this game already, you will keep doing this.

[questioneer]

Germany collects- $87

yes that was a tactical mistake by me- I usually leave German aircraft on the AC but for some reason I didn’t.  If you would have kept the AC and took a ftr out you could have stopped Sealion in z110 by scrambling- you would have had enough to stop the invasion before it started b/c the Italian ftrs can’t attack like you said.  Looks like I made a tactical mistake and you missed a grand opprotunity.  Play on???

[questioneer]

@corriganbp:

What was so unfair about losing the carrier?

sour grapes?  If I don’t stick up for my right to scramble that you have ignored twice in this game already, you will keep doing this.

From this point on, how do you want to handle “missed” scrambling by the attacker???  This is the problem with doing scrambling online especailly if one forgets to ask and the roll has been made.

[corriganbp]

first, you didn’t have the italian fighters on the cv, they were shot down.

second, you could simply have put some planes above the fleet, and frankly I’m surprised that you didn’t in this sea lion attempt.

sour grapes, no it’s making you play honest.

[corriganbp]

ok this is not your first game online.

you ask your opponent if they want to scramble before they proceed.

now you are blaming me for the fact that you didn’t ask me if I wanted to scramble.

[questioneer]

@corriganbp:

first, you didn’t have the italian fighters on the cv, they were shot down.

second, you could simply have put some planes above the fleet, and frankly I’m surprised that you didn’t in this sea lion attempt.

sour grapes, no it’s making you play honest.

Right on both counts- I’m not denying that- my mistake.  Again- how do you handle missed scrambling by the attacker.  Different people have different ways of handling this.

[questioneer]

@corriganbp:

ok this is not your first game online.

you ask your opponent if they want to scramble before they proceed.

now you are blaming me for the fact that you didn’t ask me if I wanted to scramble.

BUT YOU DON’T SAY ANYTHING UNTIL THE ROLLS ARE NOT IN YOUR FAVOR- GET IT???  GEEZ.

[questioneer]

Again how do you want to handle missed scrambling???

[questioneer]

Gotta go for now- think about it.

Choices

A) Play on

B.) Start over

C.) Quit

Choose one

[corriganbp]

Do you get the fact that I can’t tell you whether I am going to scramble until I see what you are attacking with?

You decide when you are going to post, not me.
I don’t know how many planes you’ll be flying in 110, and I don’t want to advertise what I would do beforehand.
I am not used to people not asking me for my scramble decision, especially when the exact same thing happened the turn before, so the player should know to ask.

I am simply reflecting back a fraction of the attitude that you’re giving me.

In terms of what would be fair, I am not sure yet, I haven’t seen this happen before, believe it or not.

Ask yourself this, you re-rolled the battle in 110 and I didn’t object, but if you had received great rolls, would you really have re-rolled your attack?  of course, we can’t know the answer to that question.  if you only had hit once, that cv would still be in 110.

[corriganbp]

I agree that life is too busy to get drawn into axis and allies arguments; there is barely enough time to play let alone argue about playing.