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    @Tall:

    “Coach”’

    May I request you to make a new thread about your futurePearl Harbor game  I don’t know where you are along with it, or how much time you have to devote to it,…but it seems that there would be enough interest in it to warrant a thread of it’s own so we could keep up with any developements.  Thanks for listening.

    “Tall Paul”

    I will,
    I am very busy this week trying to ready for a 7 day vacation so no orders will go out after Friday morning for the next 8 days.
    I need some time off, 80 hour work weeks are taking their toll on me. I will start the Pearl Harbor game thread when I get back.
    I will also start the Axis Minor pre-order and give you more information on the next set after the U.S sculpts that I have already posted. The “Neutral” set will be done in 6 colors and will have some totally different pieces than you have seen so far. I will also be posting a poll for the next set.

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    “Coach”,

    That’s GREAT news “Coach”.  About EVERYTHING you mentioned.  I sincerely hope you enjoy your vacation and put everything A&A out of your mind for a short while during your vac.  It looks like several people are already looking forward to your P.H. game.  Have FUN and we’ll hear from you soon.

    “Tall Paul”


  • coach i admire you<3


  • how many pieces in each set?

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    @Lunarwolf:

    how many pieces in each set?

    28


  • i meant how many of each pieces are going to be in the set?

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    @Lunarwolf:

    i meant how many of each pieces are going to be in the set?

    (2) of each except (4) P-51 and (4) Airborne

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    Wow,

    That would be:

    2  Mack Trucks
    2  CVE Escort Carriers
    2  “Nevada” class Battleships
    2  M-5 “Stuart” Light Tanks
    2  Tank Destroyers
    2  M-7 “Priest” Self Propelled Artillery(Mech Art.)
    2  C-46 “Commando” Cargo Planes
    2  P-40 “Warhawk” Fighters
    2  B-25 “Mitchell” Medium Bombers
    2  TBF Torpedo Bombers
    4  P-51 “Mustang” Fighters
    4  “Airborne” Infantry

    This is going to be a GREAT set!  I’m really looking forward to “Coach” returning from his well deserved vacation and accepting our pre-orders.  I’m ready!

    “Tall Paul”

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    Hmmm.  I may have to end up ordering 10 of the US set.  I was originally looking at 5 sets, but I will want more M-5s, Mack Trucks and M-7s for sure.  Probably more B-25s and P-40s too.

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    KNP,

    Ordering 10 sets would not only increase your potiential A&A “FUN FACTOR”, but by doing so would help fuel the “Coach’s” snowball for getting additional A&A unit/sets produced.  As an A&A gamer myself I respectfully say THANK YOU for your support of these new units and by doing so making all of our A&A gaming more FUN.

    Sincerely,
                                                                                          “Tall Paul”


  • im looking forward to the fighters. so i think imma end up buying 4-5 sets. as for the m-5s and p-40s i remember a while back he said they would be included for a nationalist chinese set

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    @Lunarwolf:

    im looking forward to the fighters. so i think imma end up buying 4-5 sets. as for the m-5s and p-40s i remember a while back he said they would be included for a nationalist chinese set

    That would be cool too.  I would kind of like to see a little more variety for Chinese units.  Although, if I play Japan, I sure wouldn’t want to see China getting tanks.  Still, maybe just to see these units in the Chinese yellow/green color would be cool.

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    @knp7765:

    Hmmm.  I may have to end up ordering 10 of the US set.  I was originally looking at 5 sets, but I will want more M-5s, Mack Trucks and M-7s for sure.  Probably more B-25s and P-40s too.

    I paid for the US mold before I left for vacation, it is on it’s way to being made.
    It will be a good set.

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    “Coach”,

    Please let us know when we can pre-order this GREAT set.  Man, with the units you’ve included in this set I would be surprised if it wasn’t your most popular set.

    “Tall Paul”


  • Hey coach…good work… US set is a must.
    Meanwhile I order WWII painted leader. (Roco figurines)
    Can’t wait to get it.
    What about WWII generals like Rommel, Montgommery and others commanders?


  • Hey gents, did any of you read this?
    Pearl Harbor mini-submarine mystery solved?
    Researchers think they have found the remains of a Japanese mini-submarine that probably fired on U.S. battleships on Dec. 7, 1941.
    December 07, 2009|By Thomas H. Maugh II
    The remains of a Japanese mini-submarine that participated in the Dec. 7, 1941, attack on Pearl Harbor have been discovered, researchers are to report today, offering strong evidence that the sub fired its torpedoes at Battleship Row.
    That could settle a long-standing argument among historians.
    Five mini-subs were to participate in the strike, but four were scuttled, destroyed or run aground without being a factor in the attack. The fate of the fifth has remained a mystery. But a variety of new evidence suggests that the fifth fired its two 800-pound torpedoes, most likely at the battleships West Virginia and Oklahoma, capsizing the latter. A day later, researchers think, the mini-sub’s crew scuttled it in nearby West Loch.

    The loch was also the site of a 1944 disaster in which six tank landing ships preparing for the secret invasion of Saipan were destroyed in an ammunition explosion that killed 200 sailors and wounded hundreds more.
    When the Navy scooped up the remains of the so-called LSTs and dumped them outside the harbor to protect the secrecy of the invasion, it apparently also dumped the mini-sub’s remains, which were mingled with the damaged U.S. ships.
    “It’s not often that a historian gets a chance to rewrite history,” said marine historian and former Navy submariner Parks Stephenson, who pieced together the evidence for the television program “Nova.” “The capsizing of the Oklahoma is the second most iconic event of the attack. If one submarine could get in in 1941 and hit a battleship, who knows what a midget sub could do today. Iran and North Korea are both building them. It’s very worrying.”
    Stephenson and his colleagues have put together a convincing chain of circumstantial evidence, but it is just circumstantial, said Burl Burlingame, a journalist at the Honolulu Star-Bulletin and author of “Advance Force: Pearl Harbor.”
    “There is a good chance that this is the Pearl Harbor midget, but I don’t think the case is closed on it,” Burlingame said. “At this point, it is not hard evidence.”
    The two-man, 80-foot-long sub in question does not have a name of its own. Each of the five subs in the attack was carried by a conventional submarine and took its name from the mother boat. It is thus called the I-16-tou – tou being Japanese for boat. Powered by a 600-horsepower electric motor, the sub could reach underwater speeds of 19 knots, twice as fast as many of the U.S. subs of the day.
    The three pieces of the sub were found during routine test dives between 1994 and 2001 by Terry Kerby, chief pilot of the Hawaii Undersea Research Laboratory’s submersibles Pisces IV and Pisces V. But Kerby and others assumed they were a part of a war trophy that had been captured by allied forces at Guadalcanal or elsewhere, towed back to Hawaii and scuttled.
    Stephenson got involved in 2007 because he was looking for the fifth Japanese mini-sub.
    In 1941, a crewman on the I-16 had received a radio call from the I-16-tou at 10:41 p.m. on Dec. 8 reporting the success of its mission. That indicated to Stephenson that the mini-sub had found a calm place in the harbor and hidden until the next night before surfacing and sending the call.
    The crew members would have then scuttled the craft because they could not get it out of the harbor. The West Loch would have been a good location to hide, but researchers could find no trace of the boat there.

    A diver who had been looking for the mini-sub suggested that Stephenson talk to Kerby, who sent him pictures of his find.

    “As soon as I saw the bow section with the distinctive net cutter, I knew that we had found the fifth midget sub,” Stephenson said. The Japanese navy modified net cutters on the subs for specific missions, and the one on the wreck was identical to those on the other mini-subs.

    No torpedoes were found on the wreck, and evidence suggests that they were not present when the boat was sunk. A newly declassified photograph taken by a Japanese plane during the attack appeared to show a mini-sub firing a torpedo into Battleship Row. A report to Congress in 1942 by Adm. Chester W. Nimitz describes an unexploded 800-pound torpedo recovered after the battle. That’s twice the size carried by the torpedo bombers.

    That torpedo was apparently a dud that missed the West Virginia.

    But an examination of the remains of the Oklahoma shows that it apparently had underwater damage much larger than that associated with aerial torpedoes. An underwater blast would have caused it to capsize, Stephenson said. “Otherwise it would have settled to the bottom upright,” like the other sunken ships.

    The 1944 disaster at West Loch occurred on May 21 as the Navy was preparing to invade the Mariana Islands in Operation Forager. The Navy clamped a top-secret classification on the incident to keep it from the Japanese, and few records are now available. What is known is that it was crucial to clear out the debris because the loch was by then the site of an ammunition dump.

    Records from the salvage ship Valve showed that it was brought into the loch during the cleanup and its 250-ton crane was used for an undisclosed reason. Stephenson thinks it lifted the I-16-tou, but there are no records to confirm that.

    The remains of the mini-sub were then dumped three miles south of Pearl Harbor along with those of the LSTs, to be found by Kerby 50 years later.

    Bulkheads on the wreck are sealed, so researchers don’t know whether the mini-sub crew was trapped. But a map taken from one of the other mini-subs showed the location of a safe house in Pearl City, Hawaii, suggesting the crew might have scuttled the boat and escaped.
    This ends the midget sub issue
    WARRIOR888

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    Warrior,

    If you really want to know about the midget subs and everything else in the attack on Pearl Harbor,…you should read the book “Attack on Pearl Harbor: Strategy, Combat, Myths, Deceptions by Alan Zimm”.  It would open your eyes.  If you don’t by a copy, try finding it at your local library or have them order it.

    I’ve seen the tv special you’re referring to and it was very good.  But for the complete truth and a greater understanding on what happenned and why,…read the book.

    Almost all of the Japanese torpedo bombers flew down one approach and then struggled to turn towards the BBs to attack them.  That’s why the Oklahoma received an overabundance of torpedo hits.  Anyhow, I hope you and every American would read this book, or have it taught to them in school.  Like I said, give yourself a better understanding of what actually happenned by reading the book.

    “Tall Paul”

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    US supplement set (Not Naval) is finishing preproduction and I should have some pictures next week!

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    “Coach”

    That’s Great news.  I’m really looking forward to seeing some more pics of all of these units.  You picked some real winners in this set,…Wow!

    No rush, but whenever it’s time I’m ready to pre-order several of these sets.  I think your waiting until the units are almost ready to produce to take orders is smart for everyone concerned.

    ----------------------------

    Will you also have the latest news or new pics of the US NAVAL Set(s), too??? 
    I was hoping for an update on these once you returned from your vacation.

    On a related note, I’m having some MARINE RAIDERS made from the regular Marines in your latest set.  I should have some pics of these and other stuff for you in a couple of weeks.  Keep up the good work.

    “Tall Paul”


  • Coach,

    Are you going to open these up for pre-order soon?

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