Gsh34 (Axis) vs. Axisplaya (Allies) G40 Alpha +.2 (no tech)

[gsh34]

sz 93 cwol

The big Italian battle for the round. I don’t know what your order of loss is, so I am going to roll my attack dice and allow you to choose first before seeing how many hits you have in return…just like in a FTF game.  Feel free to roll your own defensive dice if you want when you reply or I can roll for you…makes no difference to me.

Battle for sz 92:

Attacker: BB, 2 CA, 2 DD, SS (note:  per rules, my sub will be first 2 rolled.  If it is a hit, it must be taken on your ships.)
Rolls: 3@2 2@3 1@4; Total Hits: 23@2: (6, 1, 2)2@3: (4, 6)1@4: (6)

Defender: CV, 2 CA, DD, 2 fig, tac

[Axisplaya]

i will lose the AC

[Axisplaya]

When you play, you can just do all the rolls you need for any battle. Unless your a good hacker and have cracked the dicey, it won’t make a difference !  :lol:

[gsh34]

@Axisplaya:

When you play, you can just do all the rolls you need for any battle. Unless your a good hacker and have cracked the dicey, it won’t make a difference !  :lol:

Ok, it is just that sometimes in FTF games I have seen people be selective on their losses based on how many hits they receive.  You know, they hit back very well and therefore can afford to keep the bomber and lose a tank vs not knowing how they would hit they may choose to lose the bomber first on most instances.

Anyways, I will listen to you roll all the dice at once from now on.

sz 92 defense: CV, 2 CA, DD, 2 fig, tac
Rolls: 2@2 3@3 2@4; Total Hits: 32@2: (2, 4)3@3: (4, 5, 5)2@4: (2, 4)

[Axisplaya]

@gsh34:

just like in a FTF game.

I like that !  :-)

That’s why i asked for declaring losses at the end of each battle instead of a summary at the end of the round. In FTF game, would you dare tell your oponent at the end of each battle : i’ll declare my losses for that last round of combat at the end of my turn !
But so many players do just that in play by forum….

[Axisplaya]

@gsh34:

@Axisplaya:

When you play, you can just do all the rolls you need for any battle. Unless your a good hacker and have cracked the dicey, it won’t make a difference !  :lol:

Ok, it is just that sometimes in FTF games I have seen people be selective on their losses based on how many hits they receive.  You know, they hit back very well and therefore can afford to keep the bomber and lose a tank vs not knowing how they would hit they may choose to lose the bomber first on most instances.

Anyways, I will listen to you roll all the dice at once from now on.

Don’t ! what you’re doing is perfect. It’s the way it’s suposed to be !

[gsh34]

@Axisplaya:

@gsh34:

@Axisplaya:

When you play, you can just do all the rolls you need for any battle. Unless your a good hacker and have cracked the dicey, it won’t make a difference !  :lol:

Ok, it is just that sometimes in FTF games I have seen people be selective on their losses based on how many hits they receive.  You know, they hit back very well and therefore can afford to keep the bomber and lose a tank vs not knowing how they would hit they may choose to lose the bomber first on most instances.

Anyways, I will listen to you roll all the dice at once from now on.

Don’t ! what you’re doing is perfect. It’s the way it’s suposed to be !

I don’t know if we are saying exactly the same thing.  The rules actually state that the Attacker rolls first and the defender immediately chooses their casualties.  Then the Defender rolls and the attacker gets to choose his casualties.  Here, the attacker and defender roll at once and then both choose casualties.  This deviates from the rules and gives an advantage to the defender.  Granted, most of the time this doesn’t matter, but in naval battles and land battles with strategic bombers, mechs, art, I often find what I think their OOL is different then what they give me.

Anyways, if you say it is normal to roll all attacking and all defending dice at once, even for some of these complicated battles, I will go with what is customary.

[Axisplaya]

@gsh34:

@Axisplaya:

@gsh34:

@Axisplaya:

When you play, you can just do all the rolls you need for any battle. Unless your a good hacker and have cracked the dicey, it won’t make a difference !  :lol:

Ok, it is just that sometimes in FTF games I have seen people be selective on their losses based on how many hits they receive.  You know, they hit back very well and therefore can afford to keep the bomber and lose a tank vs not knowing how they would hit they may choose to lose the bomber first on most instances.

Anyways, I will listen to you roll all the dice at once from now on.

Don’t ! what you’re doing is perfect. It’s the way it’s suposed to be !

I don’t know if we are saying exactly the same thing.  The rules actually state that the Attacker rolls first and the defender immediately chooses their casualties.  Then the Defender rolls and the attacker gets to choose his casualties.  Here, the attacker and defender roll at once and then both choose casualties.  This deviates from the rules and gives an advantage to the defender.  Granted, most of the time this doesn’t matter, but in naval battles and land battles with strategic bombers, mechs, art, I often find what I think their OOL is different then what they give me.

Anyways, if you say it is normal to roll all attacking and all defending dice at once, even for some of these complicated battles, I will go with what is customary.

You are perfectly right. I never said anything else. You roll, i chose, you roll, you chose your losses, then again…
I was just giving an example of bad habits some players have from play by forum.

Keep doin’ what you’re doin’
That’s exactly how battles are suposed to be conducted. I must not know what i’m going to roll before i chose my casualties.

[Axisplaya]

Also, note that English is not my 1st language, so sometimes things may not come out exactly how i’d like them to.

[gsh34]

@Axisplaya:

Also, note that English is not my 1st language, so sometimes things may not come out exactly how i’d like them to.

I think your English is fine.  It is just that sometimes I come across people in FTF games who swear all dice in a round of battle are rolled first and then casualties are chosen.  I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page……and we are.

[gsh34]

I don’t like having to do this but……here is round 2 of the Battle for sz 92:

Your three hits were taken on my BB, sunk SS and sunk DD

attacker: 1 damaged BB, 2 CA, 1 DD
Rolls: 1@2 2@3 1@4; Total Hits: 21@2: (5)2@3: (1, 6)1@4: (4)

defender: 2 CA, DD, 2 fig, tac
Rolls: 1@2 3@3 2@4; Total Hits: 21@2: (2)3@3: (4, 5, 6)2@4: (1, 5)

[gsh34]

@gsh34:

I don’t like having to do this but……here is round 2 of the Battle for sz 92:

Your three hits were taken on my BB, sunk SS and sunk DD

attacker: 1 damaged BB, 2 CA, 1 DD
Rolls: 1@2 2@3 1@4; Total Hits: 21@2: (5)2@3: (1, 6)1@4: (4)

defender: 2 CA, DD, 2 fig, tac
Rolls: 1@2 3@3 2@4; Total Hits: 21@2: (2)3@3: (4, 5, 6)2@4: (1, 5)

Whew!!!  You felt rather generous to me in only getting two hits in defense.  I give you my gratitude for that. :-D :-D  I await you declaration of losses

[Axisplaya]

lol you forgot to roll your attack 1st and then let me chose my casualties before i get to see those really hideous rolls for my defense. Just after what we just said it’s hilarious !!  :lol: :lol:  :wink:

I will lose the dd and a CA

If i keep shooting way below odds like that, it’s gonna be a short game i’m afraid.

[gsh34]

@Axisplaya:

lol you forgot to roll your attack 1st and then let me chose my casualties before i get to see those really hideous rolls for my defense. Just after what we just said it’s hilarious !!  :lol: :lol:  :wink:

I will lose the dd and a CA

If i keep shooting way below odds like that, it’s gonna be a short game i’m afraid.

Yeah, I know we just had that conversation, BUT I was pretty sure that were going to choose to lose your ships and keep the planes for defense of London.  Of course, that was an assumption I made and in this game, I often find my assumptions of what my enemy will do is wrong!!! :-)

[Axisplaya]

hehe, don’t worry, you were right on this one !

[gsh34]

Retreat from battle for sz 92.

Italian losses:  damage to BB, lose 1 SS, 2 DD, 1 CA.  Damaged BB and CA retreat to sz 94.

UK losses: 2 hits taken on CV, DD, CA.  Planes land back on Gib.

[gsh34]

@Axisplaya:

hehe, don’t worry, you were right on this one !

Ahhh, Axisplaya, I think this will be an enjoyable game with you indeed!

[Axisplaya]

@gsh34:

@Axisplaya:

hehe, don’t worry, you were right on this one !

Ahhh, Axisplaya, I think this will be an enjoyable game with you indeed!

Yup and whatever the issue of this game, i will ask for a rematch ! (if you have time of course).

[gsh34]

Italy round 1,

NCM:
inf, art Eth > Sud
art Lib > Tob
2 fig, tac z93 > Sita

Placement:
DD in sz 95

Collect Income:
17 territories - 1 French DD convoy raid +2 ipc saved = 18 ipc

It is bedtime for me now.  I will await your French turn and hopefully proceed with the Germans tomorrow.  Good night.

gsh34_vs_Axisplay_1hItaly.AAM

[Axisplaya]

France 1

NCM

inf Syr » Trj
inf Fwa » Fca
inf Mor » tr sz92
dd sz72 » sz58

gsh34_vs_Axisplay_1iFr.AAM