L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    u scored 8 hits so i have to run xd

    MARTI be praised!

    But I’m sure you’ll finish the ships off with some subs later on since I sank the two des.

    yeah i had more then 50 % and the inital plan was to go till the very end, but ur guys were pretty good on defense


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    i ve sent units via sz 42 too

    the program does not allow me to withdraw there,

    but i ll do it.

    and in case it was some oversight of mine, i hope u ll allow it. dont know why it wont allow me since i ve sent units from sz 42 too

    I’m sure it’s alright.

    i think i have a theory what confused triple a, or maybe its a strange rule.

    AC does not have an attack value. maybe u can only retreat to sz from which u came with sea units that have an attack value? but never heard of it before.

    but tehnically i could send subs it wasnt a problem, i just did not know triple a will be causing trouble about it.

    and thanks

    i wasnt planing to withdraw but in these hard battles u need to have all options included before u start


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 7

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
                  Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese
            1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Hunan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
                Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            2 artilleries moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Burma
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kwangsi
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese : 0.17
    Japanese : -0.33
    

    Savegame


  • one usa ncm on the start of uk turn, i forgot on the start of the chinese one


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    i ve sent units via sz 42 too

    the program does not allow me to withdraw there,

    but i ll do it.

    and in case it was some oversight of mine, i hope u ll allow it. dont know why it wont allow me since i ve sent units from sz 42 too

    I’m sure it’s alright.

    i think i have a theory what confused triple a, or maybe its a strange rule.

    AC does not have an attack value. maybe u can only retreat to sz from which u came with sea units that have an attack value? but never heard of it before.

    but tehnically i could send subs it wasnt a problem, i just did not know triple a will be causing trouble about it.

    and thanks

    i wasnt planing to withdraw but in these hard battles u need to have all options included before u start

    No, that can’t be the thing. The ac are units that take part in the battle and certainly counts when considering retreat.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    i ve sent units via sz 42 too

    the program does not allow me to withdraw there,

    but i ll do it.

    and in case it was some oversight of mine, i hope u ll allow it. dont know why it wont allow me since i ve sent units from sz 42 too

    I’m sure it’s alright.

    i think i have a theory what confused triple a, or maybe its a strange rule.

    AC does not have an attack value. maybe u can only retreat to sz from which u came with sea units that have an attack value? but never heard of it before.

    but tehnically i could send subs it wasnt a problem, i just did not know triple a will be causing trouble about it.

    and thanks

    i wasnt planing to withdraw but in these hard battles u need to have all options included before u start

    No, that can’t be the thing. The ac are units that take part in the battle and certainly counts when considering retreat.

    then i do not get it


  • I’ll check.


  • so it was -42 there for me, not very nice, but anzac can fix it i hope


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    so it was -42 there for me, not very nice, but anzac can fix it i hope

    I’m sure they will with 4 figs along those 4 subs and des.


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    i ve sent units via sz 42 too

    the program does not allow me to withdraw there,

    You evidently moved units through z42, so even if the client screws with you, I claim it wrong and allow the retreat.


  • And even if you are right about that with attack value, you could’ve just easily moved some other ship along with that ac.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    And even if you are right about that with attack value, you could’ve just easily moved some other ship along with that ac.

    yes, i wasnt aware of that. but maybe its a triple a bug. who knows?


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    i ve sent units via sz 42 too

    the program does not allow me to withdraw there,

    You evidently moved units through z42, so even if the client screws with you, I claim it wrong and allow the retreat.

    thanks u re a true gentlemen


  • i am doing uk ncm


  • TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 7

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Southern France
            1 carrier moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 42 Sea Zone from Japanese
            1 battleship, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 4 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 45 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to 44 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Southern France
                Americans attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
                    Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 3 : 4/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern France, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
                Americans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 4 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports
                    Americans roll dice for 4 submarines in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Japanese
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 3 destroyers and 4 fighters in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                    4 submarines owned by the Americans, 2 destroyers owned by the Japanese, 1 submarine owned by the Japanese and 4 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 44 Sea Zone
                3 destroyers owned by the Americans, 2 carriers owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Americans retreated to 45 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 4 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -42
                Casualties for Americans: 4 fighters and 4 submarines
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 destroyers and 1 submarine
                2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese and 4 fighters owned by the Japanese forced to land in Celebes
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            EDIT: 1 battleship, 2 carriers and 3 destroyers moved from 45 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 30 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from 44 Sea Zone to Northern Territory
            3 fighters moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Korea
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            1 transport placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 2 submarines placed in 101 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1
            Americans collect 61 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 61 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
                  Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese
            1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Hunan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
                Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            2 artilleries moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Burma
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kwangsi
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Normandy Bordeaux: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to United Kingdom: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            British buy 6 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 marine and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  British take Finland from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
                  British take Southern France from Italians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Kiangsi
                  Chinese take Kiangsi from Japanese
            1 bomber moved from India to Hopei
            2 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China
            1 tactical_bomber moved from India to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Hopei
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Sumatra
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                British attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                1 artillery owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British retreated to Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Sumatra from Japanese with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Hopei
                British attack with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei
                British win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in French Indo China
                British attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in French Indo China, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in French Indo China
                British win, taking French Indo China from Japanese with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 79 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            5 aaGuns, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 bomber moved from Hopei to Yunnan
    
        Place Units - British
            2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 110 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Egypt
            3 infantry placed in Iraq
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 44 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 marine placed in India
            1 submarine placed in 39 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs
            Units Change Ownership
                Some Units in India change ownership: 1 marine
                Some Units in 39 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 submarine
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : -1.00
    Italians : 0.67
    British : -0.83
    Americans : 2.83
    Chinese : 0.17
    Japanese : 0.83
    

    Savegame


  • uk done

    just come here before u dice to see if i have made some ncm

    i think there will be none

    i go contemplate anzac

    cheers


  • its ok u may proceed


  • I proceed.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 7

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 battleship; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            2 armour and 2 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
            2 bombers moved from Algeria to Caucasus
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tobruk
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Algeria to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Algeria to 96 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Russians defend with 1 submarine
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
            Battle in Tobruk
            Battle in Southern France
                Italians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern France, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Southern France
                Italians win, taking Tobruk from British, taking Southern France from British with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Caucasus
                Italians attack with 2 armour, 2 bombers and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 artilleries owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Caucasus
                Italians win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 2 armour and 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Rostov
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Rostov
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 armour moved from Algeria to Libya
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 battleship placed in 97 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 19 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs
            Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 27 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians : 2,50
    British : -0,33
    Russians : 1,00
    

    Savegame


  • sorry had to fix the bicylcle of the mother of my wife. i ll try to play anzac ASAP

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