Toan6ca (Allies + 10) vs MiamiUMike - G40.2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 5 mech_infantrys and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
            1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Norway
            1 armour moved from Karelia to Norway
            6 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Tsinghai
            5 infantry moved from Amur to Korea
            4 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Norway
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans defend with 4 infantry
                Russians win, taking Norway from Germans with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Russians attack with 3 fighters and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Tsinghai
                Russians attack with 6 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Tsinghai from Japanese with 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Manchuria
                Russians attack with 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Manchuria from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Korea
                Russians attack with 5 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Korea from Japanese with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 aaGuns moved from Amur to Korea
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Novgorod
            3 fighters moved from Bessarabia to Novgorod
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            5 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            2 artilleries moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 artillery moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 artillery moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Rostov
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Tambov to Smolensk
            1 armour moved from Tambov to Smolensk
            1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
            8 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 artillery moved from Volgograd to Rostov
            1 artillery moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            4 artilleries moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            5 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            2 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            2 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus

Place Units - Russians
            1 destroyer and 2 transports placed in 127 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 5 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,3,5,5,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1
            Russians collect 37 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 37 PUs total
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Can I persuade you to have a rematch by the way, no matter which way this goes?  All my ranting aside, this has been a fun game and I’ve learned a lot.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 4 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 fighters moved from 103 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Java
            Battle in Gibraltar
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                Italians defend with 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Gibraltar, round 2 :  3/11 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Gibraltar, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Gibraltar
                Americans win, taking Java from Japanese, taking Gibraltar from Italians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in 34 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 34 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 carriers and 2 destroyers moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Wake Island to Caroline Islands
            1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 103 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 103 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Central United States
            1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters placed in Eastern United States
            1 destroyer and 3 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 1 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,6
            Americans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese

Non Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
            6 infantry placed in Tsinghai

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 4 PUs total

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 submarine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Scotland to 125 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Burma to 41 Sea Zone
            5 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 125 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 41 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/5 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 125 Sea Zone
                British win, taking 125 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Battle in India
                British attack with 5 artilleries and 18 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    British roll dice for 5 artilleries and 18 infantry in India, round 2 :  6/23 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in India, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British , 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in India
                British win, taking India from Japanese with 5 artilleries and 16 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            3 aaGuns moved from Burma to India
            1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to Java
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Java
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 125 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from 125 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French West Africa to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 armour moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 68 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
                  British take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to South West Africa
            1 mech_infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to French West Africa
            2 transports moved from 71 Sea Zone to 70 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to 70 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 70 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to French West Africa
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 71 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar

Place Units - British
            1 submarine and 3 transports placed in 110 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 1 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,4
            British collect 27 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 27 PUs total

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2,3,5,2,6,6,1,3,4,5
            UK_Pacific collect 3 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 3 PUs total

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 carrier moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from New South Wales to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 fighter moved from South Australia to Java

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 destroyer placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 12 PUs total

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 cruiser moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French

Hi there, I’m considering amphibious assaulting Denmark with Russia from SZ112.  TripleA won’t let me do it unless I also move my destroyer to SZ112, I guess so that I can kill the sub before unloading.  Is this correct?  My understanding is that I can ignore subs (if there are no enemy “surface warships” in the same seazone) as the attacker.  Specifically, I’m reading from the rulebook under transports: “A transport can’t load or offload while in a hostile sea zone.  Remember that hostile sea zones contain enemy units, but that for purposes of determining status of a sea zone, submarines and transports are ignored”.

I’m a bit confused. Is the above quote invalid during amphibious assaults, or where you could scramble planes like in this case?  If so where does it say this in the rules?  I can’t find it.  Just trying to figure out whether this is a bug in TripleA in which case we should override it, or whether this is correct.  Let me know if you know where the rule is on this; I’ll then decide what I’m going to do (not necessarily saying I’ll do the amph assault if I can, just want to know whether it’s an option without the destroyer).

Thanks.

TripleA also lets me do it if I move my sub there.  It seems to make me have to kill your sub before I can unload.  Or put another way, TripleA seems to think that your sub can’t be ignored.

OK never mind.  Just did more reading and found the following: “However, a transport is not allowed to offload land units for an amphibious assault in a sea zone containing 1 or more ignored enemy submarines unless at least 1 warship belonging to the attacking power is also present in the sea zone at the end of the Combat Move phase”

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 airfield, 4 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 destroyer moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to 127 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 127 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Denmark
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to 125 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

Scramble to SZ112?  I’m ignoring your sub.

It’s definitely been an unorthodox game, that’s for sure - you’ve really kept me on my toes with your strategy.  It will be interesting to do a post-game analysis on where the turning points were.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 airfield, 4 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 destroyer moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to 127 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 127 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Denmark
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to 125 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Denmark
            Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans and 1 destroyer owned by the Russians lost in 125 Sea Zone
                Russians win, taking Denmark from Germans with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Russians: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 4 :  1/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Bessarabia, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
                Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from 125 Sea Zone to Norway
            2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
            2 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from Korea to Amur
            6 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kazakhstan
            1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Bryansk
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Norway to Karelia
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
            1 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Volgograd
            1 artillery moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to 127 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 127 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway

Place Units - Russians
            3 artilleries placed in Novgorod
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
            2 infantry placed in Volgograd
            1 airfield placed in Norway

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 59 PUs