Ironically, I agree with Cow on this one. Russia could use a bomber. This alone could balance the game. Maybe a UK sub in the Med also.
Alpha +3.0.beta project
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Here’s the final setup approved in my game club!
ANZAC
•New South Wales: 2 infantry, 2 AAA, naval base, minor IC
•Queensland: 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, air base, naval base
•New Zealand: 1 infantry, 1 fighters, air base, naval base
•Malaya: 1 infantry
•Egypt: 1 infantry
•SZ 62: 1 transport, 1 destroyer
•SZ 63: 1 cruiser
NO
(ANZAC at war with Japan)
• 5 IPCs if Allies control “Malaya” and ANZAC controls all of its original territories.
• 3 IPCs if Allies (not Dutch) control “Dutch New Guinea”, “New Britain”, “New Guinea”, and “Solomons Islands”.FRANCE
•France: 6 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 Tank, 1 AA, 1 Fighter, Air Base, Major IC
•United Kingdom: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
•Normandy/Bordeaux: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, Naval Base, Minor IC
•Southern France: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, Naval Base, Minor IC
•French West Africa: 1 Infantry
•Morocco: 1 Infantry
•Algeria: 1 Infantry
•Tunisia: 1 Infantry
•Syria: 1 Infantry
•Sea Zone 83: 1 Destroyer
•Sea Zone 94: 1 Cruiser, 2 Destroyer
•Sea Zone 93: 1 Destroyer
•Sea Zone 110: 1 Cruiser
NO
•Once per game if “France” is liberated, the player controlling USA immediately places up to 12IPCs worth of infantry and artillery.Vichy Rules(optional):
• If Germany controls “Normandy/Bordeaux” and “France” while “South France” it’s free, roll a dice for every french territory: with a result of 1 or 2 it passes under UK control (change french units with english one); with a result of 3+, the territory and units controlling it will join Vichy and Axis. “Souther France” automatically joins Axis, “London” automatically Allies (use ANZAC units for this purpose)
• Capitol city is “Southern France”.
• Japan and Vichy are allied together, but Japan can still occupy “French Indochina”.UK
•United Kingdom: 2 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 4 AAA, 2 Fighters, 1 Strategic Bomber, Air Base, Naval Base, Major IC
•Normandy: 1 infantry
•France: 1 infantry, 1 Artillery
•Scotland: 2 Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Fighter, Air Base
•Iceland: Air Base
•Quebec: 1 Infantry, 1 Tank, Minor IC
•Ontario: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
•New Brunswick Nova Scotia: Naval Base
•Gibraltar: 1 Fighter, Naval Base
•Malta: 1 Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Fighter
•Alexandria: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
•Egypt: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, Naval Base
•Anglo-Egyptian Sudan: 1 Infantry
•Union of South Africa: 2 Infantry, Naval Base, Minor IC
•Sea Zone 71: 1 Destroyer
•Sea Zone 91: 1 Cruiser
•Sea Zone 98: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Tactical Bomber)
•Sea Zone 106: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer
•Sea Zone 109: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer
•Sea Zone 110: 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship
•Sea Zone 111: 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship
NO
(if UK is at war with Germany and Italy)
•3 IPCs if UK controls “Gibraltar” and “Egypt”.
•3 IPCs if UK controls “Quebec”, “Ontario” and “New Brunswick Nova Scotia” and US are in war with Axis.
•2 IPCS if there aren’t german submarine between SZ101 and 110.ITALY
•Southern Italy: 6 infantry, 2 AAA, 2 fighter, air base, naval base, minor IC
•Northern Italy: 3 infantry, 2 artillery, 2 AAA, 1 tactical bomber major IC
•Albania: 2 infantry, 1 artillery
•Libya: 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 mechanized infantry
•Tobruk: 3 infantry, 1 mechanized infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank
•Italian Somaliland: 1 infantry
•Ethiopia: 2 infantry, 1 artillery
•SZ 76: 1 submarine
•SZ 95: 1 transport, 2 submarine, 1 destroyer, 1 cruiser
•SZ 96: 1 transport, 1 destroyer
•SZ 97: 1 transport, 1 cruiser, 1 battleship
NO
(if Italy is at war with Uk and/or France)
•5 IPCS if there aren’t aliied warships in the mediterranean sea (SZ from 92 to 99).
•5 IPCs if Axis controls 3/4 of “Gibraltar”, “Southern France”, “Greece” and “Egypt”.
•5 IPCS if Axis controls “Morocco”, “Algeria”, “Tunisia”, “Libya”, “Tobruk” and “Alexandria”.
•2 IPCs per territory if Italy controls “Iraq”, “Persia” and/or “Northwest Persia”.
(if Italy is at war with Uk and allied with France of Vichy)
•3 IPCS if there aren’t aliied warships in the mediterranean sea (SZ from 92 to 99).
•3 IPCs if Axis controls 3/4 of “Gibraltar”, “Southern France”, “Greece” and “Egypt”.
•3 IPCS if Axis controls “Morocco”, “Algeria”, “Tunisia”, “Libya”, “Tobruk” and “Alexandria”.
•2 IPCs per territory if Italy controls “Iraq”, “Persia” and/or “Northwest Persia”.UK PACIFIC
•India: 6 infantry, 1 artillery, 3 AAA, 1 fighter, 1 Mechanized infantry, air base, naval base, Major IC
•Burma: 2 infantry, 1 fighter
•Kwangtung; 2 infantry, naval base, 1 AAA
•Malaya: 3 infantry, naval base
•West India: 1 infantry
•SZ 37: Battleship
•Sz 39: 1 destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 transport
NO
(if UK pac is at war with Japan)
•3 IPCs if Uk controls “Malaya”.
•2 IPCS if Uk controls “Kwangtung”.GERMANY
Germany: 11 Infantry, 3 Artillery, 3 AAA, 1 Tactical Bomber, 2 Strategic Bombers, Major IC
Western Germany: 3 Infantry, 4 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 3 AAA, 2 Fighters, 3 Tactical bombers, Air Base, Naval Base, Major IC
Denmark: 2 Infantry
Norway: 3 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Holland/Belgium: 4 Infantry, 3 Artillery, 3 tanks, 1 Fighter
Greater Southern Germany: 6 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 3 tanks
Slovakia/Hungary: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Romania: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank
Poland: 3 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Tactical Bomber
Sea Zone 90: 1 Sub
Sea Zone 103: 1 Sub
Sea Zone 108: 1 Sub
Sea Zone 113: 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 114: 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 117: 1 Sub
Sea Zone 118: 1 Sub
Sea Zone 124: 1 Sub
NO
(If Germany is not at war with USSR)
• 5 IPCs (oil and wheat).
(If Germany is at war with USSR)
• 5 IPCs per territory if Germany controls “Novgorod (Leningrad)”, “Volgograd (Stalingrad)” and/or “Russia (Moscow)”.
• 3 IPCs if Axis controls “Romania”, “Bessarabia” and “Ukraine”.
• 3 IPCs if Axis controls “Caucasus”.
(If Germany is at war with UK and France)
• 5 IPCs if Germany controls “Denmark” and “Norway” while “Sweden” it’s still neutral.
•2 IPCs per territory if Germany controls “Iraq”, “Persia” and/or “Northwest Persia”.USSR
•Karelia: 2 Infantry
•Archangel: 1 Infantry
•Russia: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 2 AAA, 1 Airbase, 1 Major IC
•Volgograd: 1 Infantry, 1 tank, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Minor IC
•Caucasus: 2 Infantry
•Bessarabia: 2 Infantry
•Western Ukraine: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
•Eastern Poland: 2 Infantry
•Baltic States: 2 Infantry
•Belarus: 1 Infantry
•Novgorod: 6 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 2 AAA, 1 Airbase, 1 Naval Base, 1 Minor IC
•Vyborg: 3 Infantry
•Ukraine: 3 Infantry, 1 Minor IC
•Timguska: 1 Infantry
•Evenkiyskiy: 1 infantry
•Amur: 6 Infantry
•Sakha: 5 Infantry, 2 AAA
•Buryatia: 6 Infantry
•Sea Zone 115: 1 Cruiser 1 submarine
•Sea Zone 127: 1 Sub
NO
(if USSR is at war with Germany and Italy)
•5 IPCs if USSR controls “Archangel”, the convoy in the SZ 125 it’s free from axis warships and there is not allied units in USSR.
•2 IPCs per territory if USSR controls original Axis or pro-Axis territory in Europe.
•10 IPCs once per game if USSR controls "Germany (Berlin)”.JAPAN
•Japan: 6 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Tank, 2 Fighters, 2 Tactical Bombers, 1 Bomber, 3 AAA, 1 Airbase, 1 Naval Base, 1 Major IC
•Manchuria: 6 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 AAA, 2 Fighters, 2 Tactical Bombers
•Palau Island: 1 Infantry
•Kiangsi: 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery
•Formosa: 1 Fighter
•Shantung: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
•Kwangsi: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
•Iwo Jima: 1 Infantry
•Jehol: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
•Caroline Islands: 2 Infantry, 1 AA gun, 1 Airbase, 1 Naval Base
•Siam: 2 Infantry
•Okinawa: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
•Kiangsu: 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber.
•Korea: 4 Infantry, 1 Fighter
•Sea Zone 6: 1 Submarine, 2 Destroyers, 2 Carriers (carrying 2 Tactical Bombers/2 Fighter), 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship, 1 Transport
•Sea Zone 19: 1 Submarine, 1 Battleship, 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
•Sea Zone 33: 1 Destroyer, 1 Carrier (carrying 1 Tactical Bomber/1 Fighter),
•Sea Zone 20: 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport. 1 Submarine
NO
(if Japan is not at war with US and “French Indochina" is controlled by France)
• 10 IPCs
(if Japan is at war with UK and ANZAC)
• 3 IPCs if Japan controls “Sumatra” and “Borneo”.
• 3 IPCs if Japan controls “Java” and “Celebes”.
(if Japan is at war with USA)
• 5 IPCs if Japan controls “Guam”, “Midway”, “Wake” and “Carolines Island”.
• 3 IPCs if Japan controls “Hawaii”.USA
•Western US: 2 infantry, 1 mechanized infantry, 1 artillery, 2 AAA, 1 fighter, 1 Tactical bomber, air base, naval base, minor IC*
•Central US: 1 infantry,3 mechanized infantry, 1 tank, 1 bomber, air base, minor IC*
•Eastern US: 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 2 AAA, 1 fighter, air base, naval base, minor IC*
•Hawaiian Islands: 2 infantry, 1 fighters, 1 AAA, air base, naval base
•Midway: air base
•Wake Island: air base
•Guam: air base
•Philippines: 2 infantry, 1 fighter, air base, naval base, 1 AAA
•SZ 10: 1 transport, 1 destroyer, 1 cruiser, 1 aircraft carrier (carrying 1 fighter /1 tactical bomber), 1 battleship
•SZ 26: 1 transport, 1 submarine, 1 destroyer, 1 cruiser, 1 battleship
•SZ 35: 1 submarine, 1 destroyer
•SZ 101: 1 cruiser, 1 transport
NO
(if US are at war with Axis)
• 10 IPCs if US controls “Western US, “Central US” and “Eastern US”.
• 5 IPCs if US controls “Mexico”, “South Mexico”, “Central America” and “West Indies”.
• 5 IPCs if US controls “Alaska”, “Aleutians”, “Hawaii”, “Johnston” and “Line Islands”.
• 3 IPCs if US controls “Philippines”.CHINA
• Szechwan: 6 infantry, 1 fighter
• Hunan: 2 infantry
• Yunnan: 4 infantry
• Kweichow: 2 infantry
• Shensi: 2 infantry
• Suiyuyan: 2 infantry
NO
•5 IPCs if Allies control “India”, “Burma”, “Yunnan” and “Szechwan”. -
I have issues with the neutering of UK and ANZAC in starting units while axis either stays the same or is buffed. Aside from that, I like the idea behind this.
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what do you think about the new NOs i added?
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nobody else? :?
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three things
1. I think you typed in a different language when talking about the German NO of holding the Caucuses :p2. Why did you remove all ANZAC presence from North Africa?…. If anything ANZAC presence there needed to be buffed :p
3. for historical and Gameplay reasons I think you should give Russia 2 or 3 tanks/mechs in the far east bordering manchuria
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1. i wrote in italian lol! (i’m italian)
2. i removed just 1 infantry 'cause the reinforcements from anzac arrived in north africa after the first italian offensive in 1940 (maybe i should put 1 or 2 infantries somewhere else in the board?)
3. should i give those units in place of some infantries or not? -
1. i wrote in italian lol! (i’m italian)
2. i removed just 1 infantry 'cause the reinforcements from anzac arrived in north africa after the first italian offensive in 1940 (maybe i should put 1 or 2 infantries somewhere else in the board?)
3. should i give those units in place of some infantries or not?2 anac infantry and 1 anzac transport in india? maybe west india?
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1. Yes, replace 3 inf with ideally 2 mechs and 1 (maybe 2) tanks as to not Give Soviets to strong of a presence but still A. represent the armored presence that was kept there throughout the war due to border skirmishes B. Have a full retreat to Moscow start showing it’s benefits before round 7 :p
2. I think it is a bit weird to have ANZAC sitting in or off the coast of India. Personally i would say to have the ANZAC forces be in Egypt as it is within a couple of months after the game starting that they got there. However, if you were to have the forces not starting in Egypt I think the smartest thing to do would to have 2 inf and 1 artillery sitting in either a transport ship in the red sea or already landed in trans-Jordan
Keep up the good work Braccon :)
P.S. I have no idea how you would balance it and you would have to break the rules to do so, But what about an IC in amur?. when Germans were assaulting Moscow most of the Soviet Tanks were being made and shipped from the far east and the also had the important port city of Vladivostok there which could serve as a naval base. Again it probably would never work considering Amur is worth 1 and it might make Russians and Japanese at eachothers throats for Amur and Manchuria but it has always been an intriguing idea to me
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1. Yes, replace 3 inf with ideally 2 mechs and 1 (maybe 2) tanks as to not Give Soviets to strong of a presence but still A. represent the armored presence that was kept there throughout the war due to border skirmishes B. Have a full retreat to Moscow start showing it’s benefits before round 7 :p
2. I think it is a bit weird to have ANZAC sitting in or off the coast of India. Personally i would say to have the ANZAC forces be in Egypt as it is within a couple of months after the game starting that they got there. However, if you were to have the forces not starting in Egypt I think the smartest thing to do would to have 2 inf and 1 artillery sitting in either a transport ship in the red sea or already landed in trans-Jordan
Keep up the good work Braccon :)
P.S. I have no idea how you would balance it and you would have to break the rules to do so, But what about an IC in amur?. when Germans were assaulting Moscow most of the Soviet Tanks were being made and shipped from the far east and the also had the important port city of Vladivostok there which could serve as a naval base. Again it probably would never work considering Amur is worth 1 and it might make Russians and Japanese at each others throats for Amur and Manchuria but it has always been an intriguing idea to me
I would say urals, novosibirsk, or samara would be better choices for IC since Japan can easily stomp amur J1(make 1 of them worth 2 ipcs).
Even better idea, give russia some once per game special ability: at the beginning of their turn (before purchases), they can remove the Ukraine IC from the board(if under their control) and move it to one of the territories I listed or something like that. Have it placed at their collect income phase so they can’t place new units there the turn it was moved.
Maybe add an IPC cost to do it or something.
Russia did pack up factories that were close to the front and moved them towards the Ural mountains in the real war.
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If factory has damage on it, russia needs to repair it completely to move it.
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This should be moved to House Rules.
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Just a quick troll post…why has this not been moved to house rules along with all the others …
:wink:
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trololol uncrustable…… i dont mind though considering everyone on this forum has got to have their own opinion of what to change in global… though it is a house rule… damnt why not just put it in both :p
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