• I wouldn’t buy a BB w/Russia either, the allies already have naval superiority in this game. If the CP are buying a lot of boats then it’s England/France that need to deal with it. I would hate to think that buying a battleship (instead of ground units) ends up allowing them to put you into revolution, and any Russian ships would be removed.


  • So interesting game I’m playing right now (well not right now, but started yesterday to be continued later today)…
    Turns 1-3 are pretty standard.  In particular, the UK focuses on rebuilding its fleet and begins the alternating Picardy/Belgium drops with Karelia.
    On turn 4, however, both the UK, and the US now in the war, shift heavily to taking out the Ottomans.  Previously the UK was just playing tag in the middle east, and finishing up the Germans in Africa.  Now, for the last several turns, most of the UK income has gone into Inida.  Meanwhile, the US ignored Italy, and set up the shuck shuck going from Canada to Spanish Morroco to Egypt.

    On the downside, for the Allies, Italy is going to fall in next 2-3 turns to AH.

    On the plus side, the Ottomans have a single troop (contesting a large British stack with air & tanks) in Messopatamia and a single troop (contesting a large American stack, air but no tanks) in Trans-Jordan.  Other than Bulgaria (and sometimes Arabia) the Ottomans have advanced nowhere else on the board.  (They sent some troops into Russia early on, but those troops have since fallen.)  They’re reinforcements are less than what the British build each turn, and about on par with what the Americans build.  The only plausible scenario for their survival is Germany disengaging from the Russian fight, and heading South to bail them out, which of course would bail Russia out, while at the same time France is beginning to gain ground in the West.

    This is a new game, I’m sure both sides did not play this strategy optimally.  But the basic Allied strategy of holding fast turns 1-3, then hitting the Ottomans hard with the Anglo-Saxon armies from both sides seems very interesting to me.  I’ll let you know how it turns out.


  • We have seen the UK spend all its income in India for a round or two in the early going (one guy in our group in particular). Those units can either be sent to Russia to bail them out (along with units into Karalia via transport from England), or make the Turks life miserable as you have said. It gets to a point to where you think should the UK be able to spend that much in India?


  • The more UK spends in India, the less it spends on the Western front. If Britain is spending its entire economy (!) for two turns (!) in India, Germany can -and should!- make them pay.

    @WILD:

    We have seen the UK spend all its income in India for a round or two in the early going (one guy in our group in particular). Those units can either be sent to Russia to bail them out (along with units into Karalia via transport from England), or make the Turks life miserable as you have said. It gets to a point to where you think should the UK be able to spend that much in India?


  • That’s funny you say that, because in one of the games UK put very little in France, and the Germans still had a very difficult time 1 vs 1 against the French (Austria had its hands full w/Russia & Italy). Paris was under siege, but they can still drop units when it’s contested (the French have too many supplemental territories to make up their income). Then the UK & US come to the rescue. Even if Germany manages to take Paris, it is hard to defend it when your units need to come from Berlin (or Vienna) as the other allies bulk up on the French coast.

  • Customizer

    It takes so long for new German units to reach the front that the UK will be able to know just when they will arrive and adjust its builds accordingly. The UK must place its units just where it will hurt the CPs the most: this is the entire key to an Allied victory.


  • @ghr2:

    I like Russia taking out Mesopotamia as well.  UK can clean up any survivors and reinforce the defense.

    Russia can certainly pull this off but I think they have to strike a balance between the amount of troops they send south and how many they keep to defend Moscow.  The Ottomans are an easy target but as long as you can keep them out of Egypt and India, Germany and AH are the real threat.


  • @ghr2:

    I like Russia taking out Mesopotamia as well.  UK can clean up any survivors and reinforce the defense.

    Looking ahead, what if the Russians took Mesopotamia and the RR prevented any futher UK reinforcements from reaching the OE.


  • @johnsnelling:

    @ghr2:

    I like Russia taking out Mesopotamia as well.  UK can clean up any survivors and reinforce the defense.

    Looking ahead, what if the Russians took Mesopotamia and the RR prevented any futher UK reinforcements from reaching the OE.

    As far as I’m aware, the current RR rules allow UK troops to pass through Russian territories. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think it would be an issue for the UK.


  • @Makoshark13:

    @johnsnelling:

    @ghr2:

    I like Russia taking out Mesopotamia as well.�  UK can clean up any survivors and reinforce the defense.

    Looking ahead, what if the Russians took Mesopotamia and the RR prevented any futher UK reinforcements from reaching the OE.Â

    As far as I’m aware, the current RR rules allow UK troops to pass through Russian territories. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think it would be an issue for the UK.

    Yes you are correct. In the FAQ it is written:
    • All Russian units outside of original Russian territories will be immediately removed from the board, and Russia will immediately relinquish control of any non-original territories it may hold, including those of formerly aligned minor neutral powers.  If units belonging to other Allied powers are in these territories, control will be established using the rules for moving all units on one side out of a contested territory (see “Land Units”, page 15), otherwise these territories will be uncontrolled until another power moves into them and will not mobilize units when entered.

    I was erred into thinking because the RR makes Russia neutral.

  • '16

    It does make them neutral and off limits…
    The original rule allowed for the allies to be in Russian territories, but the new rule is that russia gives up NON-ORIGINAL territories. Its ORIGINAL territories that are in Russian control become off limits to everyone except for the territories that are contested with the Central Powers.

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