• Why would Canada need a military? Name one country that threatens Canada. And Canada has fairly active special forces. Remember, some of the guys which US bombers killed in Afganistan.


  • Why would the US need a military then? I’d like to see one nation the constitutes a real, concrete threat to the existance of the US. Anyway, back on the topic, I don’t know what you mean by Japan isn’t threatened. If I lived in Japan I might feel at least a little threatened by N. Korea. Relations there have never been good and with their nuclear program… I wouldn’t feel exactly safe, even with a nation that was the most major economic competitor of mine protecting me. That’s just me though.


  • It’s hard having no military when you’re considered the world’s watchdog…


  • I think the main issue that we’re dealing with here regarding Japan…is trust. They blew it big time with the attack on Pearl Harbor. In case you haven’t noticed, the American people don’t forgive terrorist attacks very easily.

    On the other note, Canada’s armed forces situation seems reminiscent of the Clinton administration (and their attitude towards our military)…anyone agree with me? :(


  • D:S - you see the problem with this exchange is like talking about health care - you don’t have our style, so you can’t easily imagine thinking that you need it. That’s the same with other ideologies across the two countries. Canada does not have the same militaristic requirements as the US (read: bloodlust) and therefore it is less necessary for us to have the relatively equivalent army. Yanny hit the nail on the head. No one cares enough to want to attack us (well, not until we helped the US fry some of Al Queda), and our peacekeepers are doing at least an adequate job, and our shores are typically well patrolled. The presence of the US brings us closer to the need for a stronger military than any other nation or idea.


  • @cystic:

    no one really wants to invade this place ('cept maybe the US . . . ).

    Annex CC, Annex. Theres a difference.


  • Annex away YB :lol:


  • @Yanny:

    Why would Canada need a military? Name one country that threatens Canada. And Canada has fairly active special forces. Remember, some of the guys which US bombers killed in Afganistan.

    There is more to it than that.

    Why does Canada need policemen?


  • Canada needs policemen to punish criminals. They are the biggest threat Canada faces.

    Same with Japan. Rearming never does any good in a peaceful world. Wars are started that way.


  • You could look at the military as a police force.
    Protected and defending those who can’t.

    Either way, I’m not talking about increasing the military so much as I’m talking about upgrading and maintaining.


  • above was me again :roll:


  • The Canadian Military is not really obsolete. They, like most smaller countries, aren’t planning to have to run a regional war. Instead, they have a fairly small very well trained special forces core.


  • Helicopters from 1960 not obsolete???
    They can’t even afford proper uniforms.
    They need an upgrade.
    The only thing Canada has, that is anywhere near modern, are F-18s.

    You don’t have to plan on wars to keep a military modern.
    Peace keeping is important, is it not.
    Why not have Canada peace keep in other nations with swords and shields
    I can’t imagine that being expensive……

    I don’t know where you getting this special forces thing from…
    The units in Afghanistan were regular infantry.
    I belive the division came from Edmonton.
    In which case it’s the Princess Patricia Canadian Light Infantry 1.
    No special forces there…


  • your wrong! Canada has specail forces, its the goverments best kept secret!


  • the Canadian light infantry AFAIK is as well trained as the American Rangers forces - thanks largely to co-operation with the British military.
    And GeZe - i believe you’re referring to the Joint Task Force-2’s - the equivalent to the US Navy Seals - also molded after the British version. They are a well kept secret tho’. No movies, tv shows, very little news about them and the news that does come out simply refers to the unit with absolutely no specifics. It sounds like they’re quite handy tho’. . . .


  • well 10 years of nobady knowing is pretty good


  • The Navy Seals went down the tubes pretty quickly as soon as the public started making movies about them. I suspect the same will happen soon with Delta Force. Hell, theres probably some other force out there more elite than Delta that we’ve yet to learn about.


  • Yeah… Terminators. :o


  • @21:

    Yeah… Terminators. :o

    LOL, in the future…


  • @Yanny:

    The Navy Seals went down the tubes pretty quickly as soon as the public started making movies about them. I suspect the same will happen soon with Delta Force. Hell, theres probably some other force out there more elite than Delta that we’ve yet to learn about.

    How did they go down the tubes? :roll:

    They’re still just as deadly and effective as they’ve always been. Probably even more so.

    PS: Does anyone know (quantity wise) if Russia has more nukes than the United States? I’m just curious.

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