‘Panther’ seems a logical successor to the preceding ‘Leopard’, but as far as animals are concerned, ‘panther’ isn’t a separate species - it’s a term often used for black leopards. And the official Latin names of all the big cats start with Panthera, including Panthera tigris. So from that perspective, a Tiger is a Panther.
Global Warming- stop getting so upset
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Well I’m screwed anyways since I live in one of them ‘“heat island” effect around major cities’ And if I have to say, before the DMV forced drivers to install catalectic converters on their cars due to the emissions, the smog in Los Angeles was terrible (so bad that PE could no longer be a class in many schools). Not to say pollution isn’t still a problem in LA, but I have to say its gotten noticeable better.
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Global warming, Today, really isn’t much of a concern. But other envirmental concerns will come up. You cannot die Man is causing the reduction of forests, extinction of species, and basic destruction of nature. As Humans expand, more and more will die. You know as well as I eventually we will destroy our own civilization eventually at this rate. Thats why we need to start changing today.
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Global warming, Today, really isn’t much of a concern. But other envirmental concerns will come up. You cannot die Man is causing the reduction of forests, extinction of species, and basic destruction of nature. As Humans expand, more and more will die. You know as well as I eventually we will destroy our own civilization eventually at this rate. Thats why we need to start changing today.
as i said in the alien post. We are parasites on this earth. We really don’t do anything good for it. Even our excrement which should be at least allowed to access the earth is sent to the OCEAN where it won’t do any land any good.
soon the aliens will come, and ask us “so what good have you done for the earth relative to the bad”,
and we’ll say “whoops”.
and they’ll kill us all. Or make us work the salt mines. That will suck. I’ll suck up to them of course . . . they can always use a human doctor, right? -
Ah, you “small-picture” folks never understand :P
Why suck up when you can work from the inside to destroy the system and the “Man?” Remember, aim higher during human slavement. I’d settle for at least Underground Prison Camp Leader. -
@TG:
Ah, you “small-picture” folks never understand :P
Why suck up when you can work from the inside to destroy the system and the “Man?” Remember, aim higher during human slavement. I’d settle for at least Underground Prison Camp Leader.better stock up on your smokes . . . .
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Nah, smoking kills you :P
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Watch “The Greenhouse Conspiracy”. It takes eery part of global wamring and disproves it, including things like the CO2 doubling.
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When you talk global warming you talking in time periods of at least tens of thousands to millions of years. Has the industrial revolution to now effected the overall earth climate? I’d say no looking at it in an evolutionary time scale. Alledgedly, we are in a warm phase of the Ice Age. Will we stop the glaciers from advancing again in the next ten thousand or so years? Who knows!!!
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Is global warming happening? Yes. To what extreme? We simply don’t know yet. How about all the methane the ocean releases? That eats up the O-Zone. The o-zone hole has supposedly got smaller. Is that because america is usiong less r-12? But then how about China?
All I know is this…reading a time magazine a man said something very intelligent. In the 1300s, trhe vikings farmed on both Greenland and Iceland.
Try that now.
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Yeah, i agree that the earth goes through changes or cycles. And like FM said, supposedly we are in a warm phase of the Ice Age. The question is, are we affecting it? Probably, but we’ll won’t know to what extent (maybe very little). The models we use today are very limited due to technology and variables.
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@Field:
When you talk global warming you talking in time periods of at least tens of thousands to millions of years. Has the industrial revolution to now effected the overall earth climate? I’d say no looking at it in an evolutionary time scale. Alledgedly, we are in a warm phase of the Ice Age. Will we stop the glaciers from advancing again in the next ten thousand or so years? Who knows!!!
Global warming happens on a much faster scale than 10^4 to 10^6 years. Still, it’s longer or comaparable to the human life time, therefore (as you as a person do not really sees it happening) mankind likes to ignore that.
Our models are getting better, i think it will take about 10 years until we have a good model. Let’s hope that the damage done until then is not too bad. -
So just by chance earth is entering a “warm cycle” during the time that we are polluting it most? I don’t believe in coincidences.
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@TG:
Yeah, i agree that the earth goes through changes or cycles. And like FM said, supposedly we are in a warm phase of the Ice Age. The question is, are we affecting it? Probably, but we’ll won’t know to what extent (maybe very little). The models we use today are very limited due to technology and variables.
THe problem is that the extend could be huge and long term, we should assume that the “worst case” scenario is true, and act to prevent that. Even though we maybe do “too much” that’s much better than ruining the future of all mankind.
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The problem is public support. Most people here (well at least where I live), don’t know about GW (maybe) or don’t seem to care (more likely). A classic example would be:
“When I get married, I’m going to have 6 kids!”
“Isn’t that a little much, with over population and all?”
“Who cares, I’ll be long dead before that happens! Nobody is going to care about 6 more people in a world of 6 billion!”Many scientist agree that the a lot of what we do today (depletion, pollution) won’t have any effects until hundreds, maybe even thousands of years from now. The question is, can people change their selfish attitude of, “Well, who cares? I’ll be dead by then.”
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F_alk - That’s the reason for not polluting. The earth will survive us. But future human generations may not, along with other species - talk about genocide…
The other thing to consider is past pollution. Scientists tell us that in the earth’s past there have been periods of high vulcanism. Much worse, longer lasting, and toxic than anything we’ve thrown in the air. The earth survived. I’m not saying this to justify our polluting to kill our children, but the earth will outlive us…if that’s any help…
Remember, the fate of all species is extinction. Even ours…
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I read abut an experiment that was looking at the effects of CO2 doubling on plants. It showed that when given double the CO2, the plants became twice as large. So this increase in CO2 is increasing the size of our plants and crops, which is essential in feeding the increasing populations of the world.
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Huh, you don’t say? Talk about lucking out :roll:
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@Field:
F_alk - That’s the reason for not polluting. The earth will survive us. But future human generations may not, along with other species - talk about genocide…Remember, the fate of all species is extinction. Even ours…
A nice quote of one of the ecologists movements in germany:
The nature does not need humans.
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I read abut an experiment that was looking at the effects of CO2 doubling on plants. It showed that when given double the CO2, the plants became twice as large. So this increase in CO2 is increasing the size of our plants and crops, which is essential in feeding the increasing populations of the world.
Damn stupid plants, why can’t they grow in a few km height, where the CO2 is important for the greenhouse effect….
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So just by chance earth is entering a “warm cycle” during the time that we are polluting it most? I don’t believe in coincidences.
50/50 chance. The Earth is always either warming up or cooling down.
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