• I know, I’m just saying I don’t see how you can exclude one type of 5/5 unit while allowing another, all based on the name of a unit.  That’s why I had suggested the “No benefiit is granted to units with the Dug In special ability”.  I though it sounded more professional than “No benefiit is granted to units with the word Sandbag in their name”.  Just semantics really.

    What I wonder is what is a +1/+1 on defense worth in points?


  • OK I see whay your saying. Yeah whats good for the goose has to be good for the gander.

    -Lt04


  • I just think Sandbagged MGs should not get the bonus because they are already sandbagged.  I don’t know if you can enhance something’s defense that much just by stacking more rows of sandbags in front of it.

    Elite units, however, are not already sandbagged, so it’s OK if they get the bonus.  And I also think that the “Dug-in” SA shouldn’t be the deciding factor, because depot units should benefit from it too.


  • Yeah I could go look, but does any one know (who could save me the time) how many sand bag units there already are in the game? I just ask b/c if there are only a few that would change how I feel about the sand bag bonus.

    -LT04


  • There is only one real unit with the “Dug In” ability…though support “units” (if can call them units) like Ammoo Dump are also Dug In because they cannot move.

    There are a couple of units with “Enthrenched” which is the same defensive bonus until they move.  The Canadian Entrenched Antitank Gun is such a unit and it’s a sweet looking mini and has the sandbags stacked in front of it.  The other one I know of is the Fortress Defender, a weak 2pt German soldier unit.

    Mot


  • Hmm,

    Well I would have to say that I wouldn’t mind allowing all units get the +1/+1 sand bag bonus. I’m not saying I like the idea of a double sand bag team, but I think it’s easier to keep things less complicated.

    -LT04


  • Even if depot units DO get the bonus, in the case of the Fuel Depot and the Ammo Dump, there is a chance it will get destroyed, regardless of its defense.

    But for the sake of the HQ, how awesome would it be to have it sitting in a pillbox, completely surrounded by sandbags…
    +1/+1 defense, AND +1 on cover rolls!  :-)


  • You bring up a good point should sandbags give a +1/+1 on defense and/or cover rolls?

    -LT04


  • Well the pillbox gives the +1 to cover rolls.  The question is, can you use two fortifications in the same hex.  I think the answer is no, but I’d have to look it up to be sure.

    Mot


  • Realistically, I don’t think the HQ should receive both bonuses, because the pillbox is simply NOT that big in real life, that the HQ would actually benefit from both.


  • @Labia:

    Wow   It sounds lovely and I really have no idea on the sand.   The glue may work.  Are you thinking of mixing some sand in with glue and painting it on?   Im wondering if you would have to seal it with something.

    I went to a hobby shop and found some that were intended for train models.

    LT

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