Mobilzation question

@Krieghund: 1st: 1984 2nd: 1986 3rd: 1997 Thanks again. Now, I hope I will find time to describ  the evolution of the control effect of Subs on SZ.

@ShadowHAwk: Would it not be much better and simpler to state that every move should be possible before combat is rolled? To avoid these cheesy situations. It takes the carrier the whole turn to move 2 spots so if it does not start sailing the same time the fighters would launch they would not survive anyway. That will severely hinder some of the tactical & strategic aspects of battles and planning and remove alot of the surprises from the game.  Regardless of how a battle turns out, one of my favorite aspects of the game is the surprise move or act of desperation that wasn’t expected or accounted for.  I’m satisfied that you can’t send your planes on a one way trip, but you CAN send them on a potentially suicidal mission.

@Rammstein: Can Chinese units be placed on a territory that it just captured? ex. If China takes Manchuria with 1 Inf remaining, can it place its “purchased” Inf on it that turn? Yes. @Rammstein: If so, can US planes land on a newly captured Chinese territory? No.  The US and China share a turn, so planes from either nation can’t land in territories captured by either one on the same turn. @Rammstein: Does the 3 unit limit refer to Chinese or Allies units? Chinese units only, including the Flying Tigers. @Rammstein: Can a US plane attack a German sub if a UK destroyer is present? No.  The UK destroyer will not be involved in the battle, so it doesn’t enable the plane to hit the sub. @Rammstein: 1 Sub attacks 1 Carrier w 2 Fighters, do the Fighters roll for defence? No, since there is no defending destroyer. @Rammstein: Placing Fighters on newly built Carriers: you can place newly built Fighters on newly built Carriers, right? Yes. @Rammstein: Do existing Fighters have to end their movement in the territory where the Carrier is to be placed, or do they simply land on the territory where the Factory producing the carrier is? This could be important if a Fighter is low on movement. The fighters must end their movement in the sea zone in which the carrier will be placed. @Rammstein: Here’s a situation that has bothered me for a while: Let’s say that Japan has 5 Transports in a SZ (a juicy target), next to that SZ they have 3 Battleships with Destroyers, Carriers, etc… it’s huge. One SZ away from this huge Jap fleet is 1 US Carrier w 1 Fighter, and 1 Destroyer. If the Jap Transports are 3 spaces away from the US fleet, the Jap Battleships etc 2 spaces, and 1 empty SZ in between, could you attack the huge Jap fleet with your Destroyer (the assumption being you could theoretically win any battle), and plan to move your Carrier into that SZ in NC Movement, while sending your Fighter to attack the Transports? The best way I can put it is: can you sacrifice any given warship in order to send Fighters on a suicidal attack under the assumption that your Carrier will be in range in NC Movement? Obviously, it would be worth it for the US in this case. However, the US Destroyer will obviously die, and the US Fighter will have nowhere to land. In this case, does the plane “crash”, thus allowing the US to sacrifice some units for a big payoff, or is this situation not legal at all? It’s legal.  As long as there is any chance whatsoever, no matter how remote, that the fighter will be able to land, the move is legal. Check out the FAQ for further information.

@slo: how do you keep track of the NO’s, and how do you keep track of the income from them, do you include it on the IPC chart? In the 1941 setup for example, the USA gets 40 ipc….they also have automatically completed a NO bye controlling the usa…so would you mark 40 or 45 om the ipc chart? The IPC chart is a tool to help determine one’s IPCs they will collect at the end of their turn.  These are always in play (part of the base rules).  National Objectives are an optional rule, and are not tracked via the IPC chart.  You simply determine which NO bonus you have achieved and add those extra IPCs to your IPCs from the chart to get your IPCs awarded/collected at turns end.  Add this to whatever unspent IPCs that you have remaining, and now you know your total you can spend the next turn.

The fact that a BB can take a hit is factored into it’s cost, so it is expected that you would soak up hits with it’s ability. Remember, you paid for that when you purchased it. If you think about it like that then it is sort of like suggesting that it is bad form to hit on a 4 when you attack with a bomber, and reducing it to 3. If you are playing with new players and are worried that they forgot about this ability and didn’t factor it into their attack plans then I would just remind them before the battle and allow them to adjust their plans if needed.

Flying Tiger is correct.  Sorry if my original post was unclear.  :oops: I’ll try again. You place an existing fighter on a new carrier by moving the fighter in either combat or noncombat movement, whichever applies, into the sea zone where the new carrier will be mobilized.  Air units don’t actually “land” until the end of the Mobilize New Units phase, though they must be in the space in which they will land by the end of noncombat movement.  The active player may only move pieces from one space to another during the combat movement and noncombat movement phases. In Classic A&A, you can’t place fighters (new or existing) on new carriers at all.  In Revised, you can place existing fighters on a new carrier in the way you described in your original post.  In LHTR, it works the same way as it does in AA50.

@Krieghund: Just as other ships may, submarines may also move out of a sea zone where they begin their turn with enemy ships, even destroyers.  The destroyer doesn’t stop the sub’s movement, as the sub didn’t enter the sea zone - it started off there. Put that in the FAQ

Opps for got the link. http://www.uboat.net/fates/losses/cause.htm