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  • My group of friends and I have decided to change the teams so that It will be the US and Japan against the rest of the world.  Any thoughts about this?    We have modified the 41 setup to that all the UK is not 1 or 2 spaces off the US’s coast.  We are not changing the turn sequence.  This game seems as though it will be very interesting because there are 3 countries ready to attack the US while Japan can hit thier behind.  It seems as though the US will be forced to only naval builds.  The Japanese player has determined to let the US take half of the South Pacific for the IPCs.  What to you guys think of this as a game?


  • I think the US and Japan will be soundly beaten here.

    Especially if the US goes last.

    Give the US the 1st turn and you may have a slightly better chance, although I still think they are doomed.


  • It’s an interesting concept. Other alliances would be tempting to play in revised, if not AA50 was released.

    We did that in classic, I don’t remember if Germany + Russia worked for a good game, but Germany + US was pretty even, almost like the original teams.

    US and Japan in AA50 is much too weak.
    Also, NOs can’t be used when changing alliances, b/c the NOs are specifically built around the original alliances, while any territory with an ipc value can be captured, NOs are different.
    I’ve already been thinking about other setups in AA50, I haven’t tried any other than the original teams yet, but Germany and Italy + Russia would probably work fine. I don’t think any other teams can work, except if Italy is an enemy of Germany, Germany will then capture Italy rnd1, this will slow down Germany, but Germany will then be stronger from rnd2 than if Italy is on the same team as Germany.
    Maybe Germany and US could work in AA50, also original teams could work with the exception of Italy is teamed up with allies.
    A team change that is interesting to try out is: Germany owns all of Italy and Italian units, not only to play different setups, but also to determine if it is an advantage for axis to “split” Germany, I think axis are stronger if Germany got the possessions of Italy including the Italian units. I also think if we just removed all of Italy and Germany had to capture Italy and eventually build in the Mediterranean, Germany would be stronger than in the original AA50.


  • @Subotai:

    It’s an interesting concept. Other alliances would be tempting to play in revised, if not AA50 was released.

    We did that in classic, I don’t remember if Germany + Russia worked for a good game, but Germany + US was pretty even, almost like the original teams.

    US and Japan in AA50 is much too weak.
    Also, NOs can’t be used when changing alliances, b/c the NOs are specifically built around the original alliances, while any territory with an ipc value can be captured, NOs are different.
    I’ve already been thinking about other setups in AA50, I haven’t tried any other than the original teams yet, but Germany and Italy + Russia would probably work fine. I don’t think any other teams can work, except if Italy is an enemy of Germany, Germany will then capture Italy rnd1, this will slow down Germany, but Germany will then be stronger from rnd2 than if Italy is on the same team as Germany.
    Maybe Germany and US could work in AA50, also original teams could work with the exception of Italy is teamed up with allies.
    A team change that is interesting to try out is: Germany owns all of Italy and Italian units, not only to play different setups, but also to determine if it is an advantage for axis to “split” Germany, I think axis are stronger if Germany got the possessions of Italy including the Italian units. I also think if we just removed all of Italy and Germany had to capture Italy and eventually build in the Mediterranean, Germany would be stronger than in the original AA50.

    I have been tempted to experiment to see if Italy is advantageous as its own seperate entity.  I am inclined to agree with you that an “uber Germany” is probably preferable for the Axis.  The only reason why I have any doubt though, is the nasty nasty potential for a double hit on Russia (and sometimes even a triple hit).  It really does seem that if Italy has a decent presence in the Russian theater, Russia can only defend against two fronts after about t2 and can no longer leave a 1 man inf defense.  That alone can tip the favour to the Axis.

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