• okay I know know I’m on board and Admiral too. and I think Gewhr.  so if anyone else wants to join they can. this game should start really soon.


  • Ready and willing.


  • Japan 23 industrial complex antiaircraft gun infantry artillery tank fighter bomber transport submarine destroyer aircraft carrier battle ship
    japan/sz60 14 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 1 0
    south Korea 3 1 1 7 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    okinawa/sz58 2 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 0
    phillpnes/sz49 2 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    wake island 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Carolina islands 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Australia 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    new Zealand 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Solomon islands 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    new guinea 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

    China 20 industrial complex antiaircraft gun infantry artillery tank fighter bomber transport submarine destroyer aircraft carrier battle ship
    manchuria/sz61 6 1 1 8 2 2 4 1 0 2 0 0 0
    kwangtung/59 7 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 1 1 1 1 0
    china 4 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    skinang 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    indochina/sz36 2 0 0 2 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0

    USA 51 industrial complex antiaircraft gun infantry artillery tank fighter bomber transport submarine destroyer aircraft carrier battle ship
    Eastern US/sz10 17 1 1 1 2 1 2;2 1 2 1 1 2** 1
    Western US/sz55 14 1 1 1 1 1 1;2 0 1 0 1 1** 1
    Central US 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Alaska/sz52 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
    Hawaii/sz52 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
    Midway island 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Mexico 3 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Brazil 3 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Peru 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Argentina/sz25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Israel/sz34 2 1 1 2 1 2 2;2 0 1 1 1 1** 0
    Saudi Arabia 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0

    Russia 28 industrial complex antiaircraft gun infantry artillery tank fighter bomber transport submarine destroyer aircraft carrier battle ship
    Moscow 4 1 1 1 2 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 0
    kareila/sz5 3 1 1 1 2 2 1;1 0 0 2 0 1 1
    caucasus 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 0
    archangel 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    novosribirsk 1 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
    kazakh 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    evenki 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    yakut 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    soviet far east/sz62 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 1
    buryatia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    belrussia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    ukraine 1 0 0 2 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    west russia 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    India/sz35 7 1 0 2 1 1 0;1 0 1 2 0 1 0
    Persia 2 0 1 2 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Egypt 1 0 0 2 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
    East Africa 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Equatorial Africa 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Algeria 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Libya 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    west Indies 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Venezuela 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Borneo 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    east Indies 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

    Europe 47 industrial complex antiaircraft gun infantry artillery tank fighter bomber transport submarine destroyer aircraft carrier battle ship
    UK/sz7 8 1 1 1 1 0 2 0 2 0 1 1 0
    Spain 3 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    France/sz13 8 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0
    Germany 10 1 1 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Italy/sz14 6 0 0 0 1 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0
    eastern europe 2 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Balkans 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    eastern canada/sz1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    western Canada 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Norway 2 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Sweden 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    west Africa 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Congo 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Rhodesia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Angola 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Mozambique 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    south Africa 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Madagascar 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    giblater 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    turkey 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Afghanistan 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0


  • THat was the unit list. but here are the rules.
    victory: test for 10 or 11
    Allies : 7
    US: 3
    DC ( EUS)
    Los angles (WUS)
    Mecca ( saudia arabia)

    Europe: 2
    London ( UK)
    Berlin ( Germany)
    Brussels is the capital however. (Western Europe)

    Japan: 2
    Tokoyo ( japan)
    Seoul ( south korea)

    Axis: 7
    China: 3
    Beijing (China)
    Shanghia (Kwantung)
    Urumqi (Sinkiang)

    Russia: 4
    Moscow ( Russia)
    St. Petersburg (karelia)
    Jakarta (East Indies)
    Tehran (Persia)

    Artic circle: submarines(only) can move from sz 4 to sz 62 and vice versa(just like going from sz 25 to sz 42)

    Dog Fighting: Air unit’s fire in opening-fire step always.
    During ground combat, while both sides have air units these air units fight with dog fighting values**(3/3).**
    Air units hits must be first allocated on air units. the only exemption to this rule is that Bombers attack ground units at 3 or less(if there is a dog fight going on)but can still be hit by air units. when only one side has air units the units fight with normal combat value.

    Bombers
    They defend on a 1 during all combat including dog fighting. Bombers can not participate in a dog fight as the attacker. During strategic bombing bombers may be escorted (see more at scramble against bombers). Bombers can carry 2 units in the non-combat move phase. they can be up to 1 inf plus 1 inf, 1art or 1 tank. If so the bomber cannot attack during this turn.

    Scramble (against bombers)
    During land combat, Fighters may defend against bombers(s) at a 3 or less. The attacker may escort the bomber(s) with fighters. If the attacker chooses do this it becomes just like a dog fight but only lasts for 1 round and the defender is not restricted to how many fighters will scramble. If a dog fight is occurring in the territory the bomber(s) stop at, they just tag along. They leave after the first round (when they strategic bomb) of combat and do not count towards the dog fight count.

    Economic attacks(sbr, missile strikes and Cruise missles): Anyone of the allies may not be the first contry to use an Economic attack unless the Axis do so first. The allies may viod this rule if they pay a 25 ipc penalty per country. The axis do not have such restrictions.

    Missile Strike
    AA guns fire 1 missile at 3 spaces or less and can target IPCs.

    Cruise missiles Battleships can now fire 1 cruise missiles up to 1 space. If cruise missiles are used, the battleship cannot take part in combat. A cruise missile can attack IPC production. AA guns in a territory defend as appropriate.
    http://rs361.rapidshare.com/files/118467932/colour.xls( 5/28/08)


  • I know that the list is hard to read but thats for people who can’t see the excel link I have. also does anyone have any questions about the rules before we start?


  • Admiral says he wants to be an allied player. and I will be whatever is left over.


  • Still reading. I might have questions in min.


  • I would like to be the USA!


  • So bombers only attack at 3?


  • Oh, only at 3 when there is defending fighters and a dogfight right?


  • @Admiral_Thrawn:

    So bombers only attack at 3?

    should be 4. but I’m thinking about making the dogfight(for fighters) level at 3 not 2. not sure what do you think?

    yeah 3 when there is a dogfigt


  • No Nuclear bombs! I want to Nuke! Well I guess that make the game not fun if Russia and US just Nuke everthing!


  • @Admiral_Thrawn:

    I would like to be the USA!

    wonder why. with starting a 51 ipc. but hey. no nukes. they are sorta simulated though rockets.


  • Maybe for dogfights 3/2?


  • Unless of course you wanted the dogfights to be more even instead of defender advantage.


  • @Admiral_Thrawn:

    Maybe for dogfights 3/2?

    yeah I wanted it to be even unless i had a reson. aa guns are basically the defenders advantage.


  • I would say 3/3 then if it is even. Rounds will go quicker if it is even anyway.


  • Unless you didn’t want them to be that effective against bombers.


  • By the way what year is this suppose to be? The 1960’s, 1980’s?


  • @Admiral_Thrawn:

    By the way what year is this suppose to be? The 1960’s, 1980’s?

    2007.

    but 3/3 makes more sense. I did 2/2 because i took the idea from someone else.


  • 2007! Wow! I didn’t know that WWIII was so close!


  • So I assume all the other combat values and the way combat is preformed except Dogfights is the same?


  • @Admiral_Thrawn:

    So I assume all the other combat values and the way combat is preformed except Dogfights is the same?

    yeah. i only changed air combat. should be 2008. that way you can be elected president and russia gets a new prez too that year.


  • How does Korea work?


  • @Admiral_Thrawn:

    How does Korea work?

    basically manchuria is divided in half. south korea is the southern half. but I changed it to 3/3 for dogfighting.

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