German Strategy…beef up the navy or straight to Moscow?

@nutbar:

it is so unfair that germany gets to go before UK because Strategic Planner usually invades UK. should i insist on uk and ussr go before germany? would USSR and UK going first then germany help or hurt the allies and would it help or hurt the axis?

Germany can only invade with 2 land units and planes in the 1st turn… thats not enough to conquer UK unless you Miss all your AA gun shots, and All your Unit defenses on the 1st cycle of defense dice rolls, and Miss again on your all your defenses in the 2nd Cycle of dice rolls. 
… germany can only send … 1 inf., 1 Tank, 1 Bomber, 2 Fighters.  UK has 2 Inf., 1 Art., 1 Tank, 2 Fighters, 1 Bomber, and the AAgun gets a shot at Each plane.

now if you mean on the 2nd turn … then that means UK goes before germany invades… if you see he buys transports and moves units in range of attack… then when you go with UK you will need to Buy units so you can Defend the Homeland.  and USA can send some units if need be, like a fighter, or land units if you absolutely need them.  chances are he wont be able to invade on the 2nd turn with that build up on Britain

I have always seen it like this:if the axis keeps his combined airforce in WEu,the combined allies should be landing through SZ4.If axis has the airforce in EEu,the allies should go in from SZ3-Nor.In both cases the allies can keep both a steady flow to Europe and slowly reinforce the fleet,away from danger,till it can move towards SZ5.

At the very least, use battlemap and upload a map file to show us the exact board state.  The AC’s look freaking HUGE on that board, they are big enough to act as a causeway between EUS and WEu.  I have better than 20/20 eyesight, was just tested last year.  That picture is fuzzy as heck, really hard to make out exactly what land units are where.

It looks like Japan has 8 Infantry sitting on the islands.  Considering most of the Jap fleet is sitting around looking pretty in Hawaii/Midway area it shows a lack of efficient utilization of assets.

With such a poor picture and lack of effort in setting up the game state I’m surprised anybody bothered to reply at all.  Those who did reply  have more patience and are better peeps than I.

I have been glancing through the boards looking for a good article on KJF (Kill Japan First) in 42, without finding that golden recipe.

As I see it it is possible to perform an opening something like this:

R1
Buy 3 inf 3 arm
hit WR maybe Ukraine
2 inf to sinkiang
Stack Bury with 6 inf
Place 3 armor in Cauc

UK1
IC in India
Kill Jap Transp with carrier
Consider hitting FIC instead of Egypt (If FIC attack fails badly IC could be placed in SA)
Get some air to cauc to clear the med and help in asia

US1
Well depends on results - Pacific navy builds
Sinkiang IC

The goal is to push Japan of the mainland and for US navy to land in east indies+Borneo and setup ICs and pin the Japan navy.
Doing this, while the russian front holds against Germany, means that the Allies will be cruising towards IPC dominance and an easy win.

I realize that this is not an optimal strategy - the counter is simply for Germany to push hard towards Moscow and quickly USSR will be in big trouble. But sometimes it is just fun to try some other variations to a standard KGF stalemate.

Does any of the more experienced players have better tactics for implementing a KJF strategy?

Try this Allied strategy.

1. Russia consolidate your Russian Asian infantry and tank in Yakut LEAVE THEM THERE, abandon Karelia and move the anti aircraft gun from Karelia to Caucuss move all infantry in Russia and Karelia tanks and fighters to Caucuss.  Then when Germany takes Karelia fall back to Russia Moscow Buy nothing but infantry the whole game and place in Russia. Moving the  AA has a good reason.

2. UK wait to see if Japan does Pearl Harbor if they do buy an Industrial complex in India.  If they do not wait to see if Japan goes for India or attack toward NW Russia. If Japan is dead set on India don’t waste the money on an industrial complex.  begin buying fighters with UK and fly them into Moscow ( now you know why i moved the AA gun from Karelia to Caucus).  Once Moscow has about 10 fighters begin switching to bombers with UK and industrial bomb Germany(another reason why we moved the AA gun from Karalia to Caucuss). Wait for the American Navy to arrive at UK before buying any Navy.  Germany will buy an AA gun in Karelia but the turn or two helps and also it costs money.  UK and America should be buying Bombers and relentlessly industrial bombing Germany.

3. America If Japan does Pearl Harbor buy 1 Bomber per turn moving to England every turn.  Slowly build up your navy and once it is large enough to withstand the German aircraft move to UK waters.  Take back Africa ASAP.  I like to leave the main naval at UK and and have another group of transports at USA and every turn i can land infantry at Western Europe by rotating the transports from UK to USA. If Japan does not “Pearl Harbor” move the American fleet from Pacific to the Atlantic.  and take Africa and start putting pressure on Western Europe ASAP.

Once the Allied industrial bombing has slowed Germany down enough were Russia Cannot be taken you can start pounding Western Europe with Infantry and the bombers and Naval.  and Also buy a few tanks with Russia to start attacking Germany on both sides.  Japan will not be able to crack the UK fighters and Russian infantry in Russia alone.

I have lost to this strategy only twice in probably 10 games at local tournaments. I loose sometimes to the same guy who spends one turn with Germany buying all tanks and then buys nothing but infantry the rest of the game.  He also does not “Pearl Harbor” he uses the Japanese navy to blitz India then in turn buys a industrial complex at India and Burma then buys nothing but tanks and bombers  with Japan he uses Japanese bombers to industrial bomb Russia and attacks with a few tanks every turn.  He pounds Russia relentlessly from Japan and Germany over and over not caring about losses however he would retreat if attacking before he takes casualties with his German aircraft. He sometimes breaks through and takes Moscow.

But he says that this Allied strategy is tough to beat and he is the best player i have seen yet. i have been playing Axis for 13 years.

Strange that nobody answered so far?! In my games going full pac or atl only worked (a little) with the US when the British did very well. I even tried to take Borneo but ended up with a japanese fleet that threatened the US westcoast.

So in summary we managed to take some pressure from the Russians but came in a - in my opinion - much worse position. Because then we had to build units to defend the american homeland…

Any ideas what we did wrong?

@ampdrive:

Are there any restrictions to travel past Gibralter or Danish straights with subs or surface ships?

No, not in this issue of the game.

@ampdrive:

Also,does sz12 (just west of gibralter)touch Gibralter?

No.

HTH 🙂

@nutbar:

Don’t focus on the US at all.

But what if the US focuses on you?  yeah there not a threat till a bit later but when they come you can’t ignore them