Alternate 41 setup or 42 setup for Global

@WILD:

I like what Emperor_Taiki recommended. Fall of 1941 would be a great start time. The political rules would be in the rear view mirror and most of the pro neutrals would be decided. Germany would start deep into Soviet tt, but Russia would have more then just inf at this point to slow down the German advances and start counterattacks. Germany would still have to decide which direction to concentrate its forces. There would still be plenty of action in the Med & Africa. A late fall 41 would also work best in the Pacific.

thank you

I personally want just the 1940 scenario. If I wanted a 1941 or 1942 scenario, then I would play my other A&A games. I am so looking forward to all the political rules and what not that will come into play since it is 1940. Deciding when to attack becomes a real test of skill and understanding of the battlefield, instead of having a start that always opens the same way (like we have with our 1941 & 42 editions of the game) with the same attacks and the same purchases etc., now we can have some flavor and for me that is all I want from this game, more flavor and options.

Well, its not like the 1940 setup disapears if there is an additional setup option. I think everyone is going to like playing the 1940 the most, but sometimes you only have six hours intead of twelve. So if there was a late 1941 setup, players could get right into the thick of things while still having alot of different strategic options.

Can Late 1941 be added as an option.

Of the people who have posted, it seems there is one vote for '42, one for '41, and two for Late '41. It seems a little unfair.

I feel that a 1941 setup could work, but the problem with 1942 is that you would have to give the axis a huge advantage to win the game at that point. My feeling is at that point in time the axis were at the pinnacle, but also were in a downfall because operation Barbarossa failed to capture Moscow and the Russians had committed Siberian forces to the European side of the war. Germany had made its run and from this point forward they (USSR and Germany) were equal in forces and buying power. The only problem is Germany also has to still deal with the UK and the USA as well. It is just too much IMO, just like in real life the axis have to make a monster push to either get the UK or Russia out of the game early in order to stand a chance against the Americans and the other surviving power. That is almost impossible to do with a 1942 scenario. For an example see the original Axis & Allies game, I’d say allies could win that 90% of the time because the numbers were too much in their favor.

@maverick_76:

I feel that a 1941 setup could work, but the problem with 1942 is that you would have to give the axis a huge advantage to win the game at that point. My feeling is at that point in time the axis were at the pinnacle, but also were in a downfall because operation Barbarossa failed to capture Moscow and the Russians had committed Siberian forces to the European side of the war. Germany had made its run and from this point forward they (USSR and Germany) were equal in forces and buying power. The only problem is Germany also has to still deal with the UK and the USA as well. It is just too much IMO, just like in real life the axis have to make a monster push to either get the UK or Russia out of the game early in order to stand a chance against the Americans and the other surviving power. That is almost impossible to do with a 1942 scenario. For an example see the original Axis & Allies game, I’d say allies could win that 90% of the time because the numbers were too much in their favor.

Spring 1942 of the 14 cities they had.

1. Berlin
2. Warsaw
3. Paris
4. Rome
5. Tokyo
6. Shanghai
7. Manila
8. Hong Kong,

Only 8. 6 more to go.

If you read my post I tell you that even though you only need 6 more cities, that is the toughest part. Because this game is based on semi-historical setups, Barbarossa has just happened and Germany is thin on men in the East, Russia is gaining steam, and the US is fully into the war because Pearl Harbor just happened too. And Germany declared war on the US in the hopes that Japan would do the same for Russia, which it did not in real life, but you can do in the game.

While the battle of the Atlantic was still in the Germans favor, very soon the mass of the Royal Navy and US Navy just swallow up the U-Boats partially because Germany was using every resource it had to attack Russia, which was busy trading space for time at this point. Japan was very powerful militarily, but inferior economically to the US. Also they are spending all their time trying to take more of Asia or hold it while also trying to stop a US fleet and (in the game) trying to attack Russia from behind. It is just too much at that point in time so that is why I feel that the latest you can do for the Axis is a 1941 setup. Anything later and the tide has begun to turn in the allies favor too much for the game to be balanced. I think this setup will allow the best balance for either side to have an equal shot at victory.

The crux for the Axis is to get rid of Russia as fast as possible, so logical thinking says that you must make Barbarossa succeed (and threaten an eastern invasion with Japan at all times) in order for that to happen.

@maverick_76:

If you read my post I tell you that even though you only need 6 more cities, that is the toughest part. Because this game is based on semi-historical setups, Barbarossa has just happened and Germany is thin on men in the East, Russia is gaining steam, and the US is fully into the war because Pearl Harbor just happened too. And Germany declared war on the US in the hopes that Japan would do the same for Russia, which it did not in real life, but you can do in the game.

While the battle of the Atlantic was still in the Germans favor, very soon the mass of the Royal Navy and US Navy just swallow up the U-Boats partially because Germany was using every resource it had to attack Russia, which was busy trading space for time at this point. Japan was very powerful militarily, but inferior economically to the US. Also they are spending all their time trying to take more of Asia or hold it while also trying to stop a US fleet and (in the game) trying to attack Russia from behind. It is just too much at that point in time so that is why I feel that the latest you can do for the Axis is a 1941 setup. Anything later and the tide has begun to turn in the allies favor too much for the game to be balanced. I think this setup will allow the best balance for either side to have an equal shot at victory.

The crux for the Axis is to get rid of Russia as fast as possible, so logical thinking says that you must make Barbarossa succeed (and threaten an eastern invasion with Japan at all times) in order for that to happen.

I know it won’t be too hard, to get 6 more cities

would 1942 work for Russia? they would have very little income seeing that most of their IPC’s are made i the western part of the country.