Some help with AA (new player)

[aaFiendish]

Try and suspend disbelief when applying rules of a game to reality. There are plausible and not plausible situations where everything could occur. For example, bombers destroyed a lot of fighters in WW2. They were grounded fighters, but still. And yes, subs cannot defend, but they can submerge after first round.

[AdamD021]

Dont think of the units as “A bomber” or “An infantry”

They are more like squads. The bomber squad may be comprised of bombers and some fighter escort, the infantry is a group of infantry possibly with some other vehicles and armament to help. A carrier isnt just a carrier its a group of ships with the Carrier being the most important, thats how I view the units.

[Guest]

Exactly… not individual units, but groupings…
Infantry, Artillery and Armored DIVISIONS
Fighter and Bomber Squadrons
Anti Aircraft Batteries
Battleship, Carrier, Destroyer GROUPS
Transport convoy
Submarine task groups

[Revelade]

So land units can attack air/land units, air units can attack all three excep submerged subs and sea units can attack sea/air, except subs can’t hit air and battle ships can do some kind of bombardment right?

[aaFiendish]

Exactly.  8-)

[88 Millimeter]

I’d go one step further, Switch. Infantry units most likely represent armies rather than divisions. If you look at the board to start the game, and assume that the pieces are meant to be commensurate with Germany’s deepest advance into Russia, then each one should represent 200-300 thousand soldiers. The starting units in the Ukraine, for example, represent Army Group South, which certainly had more than 3 Infantry Divisions.

What I’m saying does break down when you look at the Japanese islands (and Allied garrisons like Midway). The garrisons on most of them numbered in the tens of thousands, rather than the hundreds of thousands. However, the game has no way to reconcile these amounts, so we’re stuck with a 3 IPC Infantry unit to represent them all.

The other thing I’d add is that the logistical support of a unit is included in the price. Feeding an army of 200,000 men, providing operational  intelligence, and keeping them resupplied with ammunition, clothing, replacements, etc. would all go into the 3 IPC cost.

I know I’m off topic, but I do think it’s fun to keep the scope of the game in mind.

[Guest]

I agree, it is all of the support and logistics folks too.

But, even with the number skew in Europe, thinking of it as “divisions” makes it a lot easier to work with.
Also, once the “Stacking” takes place in central europe and elsewhere, those masses of teens and 20’s of INF figures certainly make more sense than whole armies :-)  I mean, 20 divisions in Eastern Europe makes more sense than 20 armies :-)  Even Russia did not float THAT many men :-)

[Revelade]

@aaFiendish:

Exactly.  8-)

When a bomber attacks a submarine, does the bomber only get to fire? Afterwards, the submarine can submerge correct?

[Guest]

Yes.

[Revelade]

Okay, two more questions…

1. After you attack a territory with an air unit and you kill all of their units, must the air unit that you used, land back to any friendly territory within one space or does it go back to any territory within its movement range?

2. If air units can not capture land territories, what’s the point of leaving men in territories like Yakut SSR?  Wouldn’t the game just be about stationing all men at the borders?

[Guest]

@Revelade:

Okay, two more questions…

1. After you attack a territory with an air unit and you kill all of their units, must the air unit that you used, land back to any friendly territory within one space or does it go back to any territory within its movement range?

They can move to land in any friendly territory within the limit of their movement

@Revelade:

2. If air units can not capture land territories, what’s the point of leaving men in territories like Yakut SSR?  Wouldn’t the game just be about stationing all men at the borders?

You can try to do this, and many folks do.  The risk is, once a break-through has been made in your front lines, you might not have any reserves to seal the breach.  Also, no nation (except Russia) has an IC on the frontier, thus all builds have to work their way to the front from an IC.