@cwglee51 Hi nice to meet you and thanks for chipping in :)
Yes, I would also say that the defender has the freedom to decide since the attacker (me) messed up.
L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB.tsvg
Game History
Round: 8
Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Ukraine 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone Americans take 35 Sea Zone from Japanese 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 8 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in Ukraine Germans roll AA dice in Ukraine : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Bombing raid in Ukraine rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in Ukraine causes 3 damage total. Battle in Philippines Battle in 36 Sea Zone Americans attack with 8 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 36 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 36 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 36 Sea Zone Americans win, taking Philippines from Japanese, taking 36 Sea Zone from Neutral with 8 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 8 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Amur to 35 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 7 carriers, 2 cruisers, 7 destroyers, 2 fighters and 4 submarines moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States 1 fighter placed in Western United States 2 infantry placed in Central United States 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 91 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 93 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Americans undo move 6. 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 5 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 3 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 97 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 3 artilleries moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Tunisia to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 battleship moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Cyprus Combat - British Battle in 97 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Americans loiter and taunt Germans defend with 1 submarine; Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 2 submarines British roll dice for 2 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/6 hits, 3,17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 3 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 submarine owned by the Germans and 2 submarines owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26 Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 2 submarines Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in Cyprus British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Cyprus British win, taking Cyprus from Italians with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in Malta British attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 battleship in Malta, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Malta, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Malta British win, taking Malta from Italians with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Burma to India 2 fighters moved from Persia to Russia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia 3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 3 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 aaGun moved from Tobruk to Alexandria 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 carrier moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 aaGun moved from Morocco to Gibraltar EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Gibraltar EDIT: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Gibraltar 1 submarine moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Northwest Persia Place Units - British 3 fighters placed in Persia 1 infantry placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 2 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0,67
Italians regular : -0,83
Japanese regular : -0,33
Germans AA : -0,17
British regular : 1,17
Americans regular : 0,67
Italians regular : -0,83
Japanese regular : -0,33
Germans AA : -0,17
British regular : 1,17
Of course every allied is above expected and every axis is below what’s new lol
average TUV swing seems to be less bad with scramble in sz97 so I will reroll it
Which figs to scramble?
3 Italian fighters
If you need to adjust noncombat based on results I have no problem with that of course
The rerolled battle.
Adjusted. 2 UK-figs on the US-ac.
@jkeller holy shit 34 ipc below expectation lol that was horrible
Wasn’t good for Mussolini. With the bad result on the first go I can understand you wanted another shot. Could’ve worked, but this was of course worse. I’ll try to not assume so much regarding scrambles, but rather await your decisions.
The difference in TUV between the two results was just 8 though.
Oh, wait, perhaps not.
wasnt based on dice at all but average expected outcome. of course average does not mean it will be better than even a bad initial roll lol. oh well i would still make same decision again especially with even a small possibility of killing uk fighters and german counter on british fleet
Yes, seems correct.
First was +26.
Second +34.
Expected TUV was +10.
@jkeller said in L21 playoff OOB jkeller(X) vs trulpen (L+43):
wasnt based on dice at all but average expected outcome. of course average does not mean it will be better than even a bad initial roll lol. oh well i would still make same decision again especially with even a small possibility of killing uk fighters and german counter on british fleet
Yep, that actually makes a lot of sense.
initial roll was -28 vs -20 expected. adjusted battle was -44 vs a -10 expected. but i would do it again
ya first one -26. second one -44
Game History
Round: 9
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans repair damage of 3x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 77 PUs;
Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
4 infantry moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda
1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Vologda
1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
1 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara
11 armour and 22 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Samara
4 fighters moved from Western Germany to 97 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda
1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
Combat - Germans
Battle in 97 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 6 fighters
British defend with 1 destroyer; Americans defend with 1 submarine
1 submarine owned by the Americans submerged
Germans roll dice for 6 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
Germans win with 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
Battle in Northwest Persia
Germans attack with 11 armour and 22 mech_infantrys
British defend with 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Germans roll dice for 11 armour and 22 mech_infantrys in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 9/33 hits, 9.17 expected hits
British roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 2/11 hits, 4.17 expected hits
3 artilleries owned by the British, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the British lost in Northwest Persia
Germans roll dice for 11 armour and 20 mech_infantrys in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 10/31 hits, 8.83 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Northwest Persia
Germans win, taking Northwest Persia from British with 11 armour and 18 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
Casualties for Germans: 4 mech_infantrys
Casualties for British: 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Battle in Kazakhstan
Germans attack with 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan
Germans win, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Samara
Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Samara
Germans win, taking Samara from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Vologda
Germans attack with 1 bomber and 3 infantry
Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Vologda, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Vologda, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Vologda
Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 bomber and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Germans
3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
1 bomber moved from Samara to Volgograd
3 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
3 artilleries moved from Belarus to Bryansk
2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Belarus
1 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk
1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod
8 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
1 bomber moved from Vologda to Archangel
1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Volgograd
2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
3 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Western Germany
2 aaGuns moved from France to Western Germany
Place Units - Germans
3 infantry placed in Ukraine
3 infantry placed in Volgograd
Germans undo move 1.
1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
3 infantry placed in Novgorod
2 infantry placed in Germany
3 infantry placed in France
1 fighter and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
Germans undo move 5.
1 infantry placed in Western Germany
2 infantry placed in France
Turn Complete - Germans
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1
Germans collect 62 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 62 PUs
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 69 PUs
Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 84 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.33
Russians regular : -1.67
Germans regular : 4.83
British regular : -1.33