NA Power Blackout Toronto/Detroit/Cleveland/NYC…



  • Heard it started in Toronto or upstate NY.
    Will take hours to get the power grid back up.
    Drink plenty of water.

    Anybody affected in New Jersey, Connecticut, Canada, etc.?



  • I’m watching it on the news right now…



  • I hope the people of North East Coast are okay right now. 😢



  • Geezz… what was the the cause of this?



  • Teem,
    you are related to Teej, right? I seem to recall seeing a few of your posts while cruising the fora.

    Welcome back!



  • Im in NJ, my power was out for roughly 5 hours. Supposedly, it was caused by a lightning strike, but it has yet to be confirmed. Various areas, including my own obviously, have come back online, but the majority are still out.



  • Teem,
    you are related to Teej, right? I seem to recall seeing a few of your posts while cruising the fora.

    Correctomundo.



  • @El:

    Heard it started in Toronto or upstate NY.
    Will take hours to get the power grid back up.
    Drink plenty of water.

    Anybody affected in New Jersey, Connecticut, Canada, etc.?

    I had no power for over 16 hours! Mayor Bloomberg was quick to blame Canada when it all started but the cause was a lightning strike on an AMERICAN facility in New York. You really need to take better care of your side of Niagara Falls. It was not fun to see major intersections as all-way stops. For a city of roughly 3 million people, things went rather smoothly but there were people stuck in the subways here. Downtown Toronto is still having power troubles and the water pumps down there aren’t working properly. There are huge lines at gas stations, most of which can’t sell gas but where I live everything is better.



  • Emu,
    Sorry but the recordings of weather tracking systems in the US(and I’ll bet Canada uses the same system[mutual benefit]) showed there were NO lightning strikes shown in the affected region prior to or at the time of the blackout. Saw it on at least one network, but couldn’t say which(channelsurfing, doncha know.)

    So we have a Blackout reaching from SE Canada(Ontario mostly), US Midwest(S Michigan, N Ohio) and NE US(parts of NY, NJ, CT, NH and MA.)

    Who does the news media got to for information? Bill Richardson, the former Secretary of Energy for the now defunct Clinton Administration! And what, pray tell, does he say? "Our energy system is Third World(or third rate or third class). He stated he traveled while SecEn and saw the condition of our energy production/transmission systems.

    Hillary came out overnight and criticized the Bush Administration for the August, 2003 energy blackout.

    Excuuuuuuuuuse yourself! Who and what previous US administration had eight(count 'em, 8) years to see, plan and do something about the US energy distribution system?



  • @El:

    So we have a Blackout reaching from SE Canada(Ontario mostly), US Midwest(S Michigan, N Ohio) and NE US(parts of NY, NJ, CT, NH and MA.)

    Who does the news media got to for information? Bill Richardson, the former Secretary of Energy for the now defunct Clinton Administration! And what, pray tell, does he say? "Our energy system is Third World(or third rate or third class). He stated he traveled while SecEn and saw the condition of our energy production/transmission systems.

    Hillary came out overnight and criticized the Bush Administration for the August, 2003 energy blackout.

    Excuuuuuuuuuse yourself! Who and what previous US administration had eight(count 'em, 8) years to see, plan and do something about the US energy distribution system?

    the last big blackout was in 1995 if I recall correctly. So it’s 5 years and not 8. Just because the Clinton Administration did not act, that does not excuse the Bush Administration for not acting to improve the system.



  • Nyet, Emu! The time of the last blackout is inconsequential. A competent administration would be able to look at what was there and see that things need to be done. Well, that explains it.

    The last blackout was 1996.

    The big blackouts were in 1965, 1977(?), 1996 and 2003. One of the earlier ones was almost a duplicate of this one, but I’m not sure which one.

    THE GW Bush Administration has acted where asked. California governor Grayout Davis’ administration has asked the Bush Administration for authorization to build more power plants. Permission was granted to the objection of every liberal environmentalist west of the Rockies. These are the first power plants built in California in more than 20 years!

    Radical environmentalists have fought and stopped the building of power plants in the US since the Ronald Reagan was president(1981.) Almost no power plants have been built in the last 20 years, but our energy use has doubled. It’s a strain on the system.



  • @El:

    Nyet, Emu! The time of the last blackout is inconsequential. A competent administration would be able to look at what was there and see that things need to be done. Well, that explains it.

    The last blackout was 1996.

    The big blackouts were in 1965, 1977(?), 1996 and 2003. One of the earlier ones was almost a duplicate of this one, but I’m not sure which one.

    It’s funny that you are calling the Clinton Administration incompetent. Last I remember, the 1990s were good times. The economy was good, unlike now with the “wonderful” Bush at the helm of the United States.



  • here in New England was affected for about 30 min. and then everthing was fine…



  • whether or not Bush is incompetent is inconsequential as to whether or not Clinton was.



  • @Janus1:

    whether or not Bush is incompetent is inconsequential as to whether or not Clinton was.

    Actually, is it consequential as El Jefe was calling Clinton incompetent in his defence of Bush.



  • well, ill call clinton incompetent now, and its not in defense of bush



  • LOL, that’s funny Janus. 😛

    EmuGod, the fact of the matter is that Hillary should keep her fat piehole shut when it comes to criticizing the President on matters they did nothing more to improve upon. Besides, Bush could absolutely bury that family politically if he ever leaked the truth about what happened during that administration, but it’s too bad he already said he wouldn’t.

    If anyone watched Bill O’Reilly during the outages yesterday, he had one guest who was very interesting. Who said that outages like she’s should never happen because so much infastructure has been put into place to prevent exactly this kind of occurence. I too, find it hard to believe that more than 3 states can all lose power as a result of one plant! 😮



  • THE GW Bush Administration has acted where asked. California governor Grayout Davis’ administration has asked the Bush Administration for authorization to build more power plants. Permission was granted to the objection of every liberal environmentalist west of the Rockies. These are the first power plants built in California in more than 20 years!

    Yes, GD build so many new power plants that we are losing excess energy every day and millions every year…



  • Emu_,
    When you learn your history as well as Yanny has after being educated(read as “assaulted”) by Xi(and then again by moi) we can discuss this topic logically.

    El Jefe’s notes : Ronald Reagan passed the largest tax cut in US history(1776-2003) in 1981(with the people’s approval, but the grudging support of a Democrat House and Senate.) The Reagan economic boom lasted from 1982 until 1998. There was a minor recesssion(1991-1992) during the GHW Bush Administration, however it was ending(Oct., 1992), before the election, but too late for the #s to get out, even while William Jefferson Blythe Clinton carped “It’s the economy, stupid!”(Great presidental words!)

    President Clinton’s administration did little to nothing to help the economy(which actually was helpful.) President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton passed the largest tax increase in US history(1776-2003) in 1993(with the people’s disapproval, but the gleeful support of a Democrat House and Senate.)

    From before 1998 to today the defunct Clinton Administration has claimed that the economy was great until after “Slick Willie”(You know what a ‘willie’ is doncha? You know why Clinton’s is ‘slick’ doncha? Just another indication of his character…) left office.

    In 2000, during the election campaign, economists examining the Clinton-touted economy numbers found and published proof that President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton and his administration had fudged the numbers since 1998. The economy had been going sour since the third quarter of 1998. Slick Willie and his administration lied about the US economy for the last two years of Clinton’s service “to protect and defend the constitution of he United States.”



  • @TG:

    Yes, GD build so many new power plants that we are losing excess energy every day and millions every year…

    Who ya gonna _re_call?

    GRAY DAVIS!



  • LJ, are you a teacher? You remind me of my high school econ teacher, except funnier. :lol:



  • @Grigoriy:

    LJ, are you a teacher? You remind me of my high school econ teacher, except funnier. :lol:

    Been there. Done that. Twas great!
    Substitute taught(seven years) 3rd grade through 12th(mostly 9th to 12th) from one-half day to over half a year in one case. Preferred 1-3 day assignments.
    Usually cracked a joke to start the period.
    I told them, “I will not put up with any trouble. If you want trouble I will give you a one-way, all-expenses-paid ticket to see the Vice Principal.”
    My name is Mr. _______. I’ve been called(all sound like my name) Mr. ________(grocery item), Mr. __________(from a cat food commercial), Mr. _________(a sound most of Western culture hears daily), and Mr. _____(an animal.) If you come up with a creative variation you will receive a smile, a handshake and the name will be added to the aforementioned notables. (Never tried to talk down to them. Always tried to add a new word to their vocabulary.)
    Took attendance leaving out the first name except when more than one had the same surname… "Miss. (Beverly) Adams",
    “Here.”
    "Mr. (Chris) Butler",
    “Excuse me, sir, but I’m a girl.”)
    _“Sorry!”_Always used male title if unsure as girls could handle the mistake better. Tried to catch names as kids talked coming in, even last names helped.
    "Mr. (William) Cortez",
    “Don’t call me Mr.! I go by WC.”
    _“You call me Mr. _____. It’s a sign of respect. You are required by the school policy to addresss me that way and show me respect. I respect you enough to return that show of repect.
    I know your first name, but we are not friends. When you graduate I hope to call you my friend and call you by your first name , letting you call me by my first name."

    Mr. (Jamaal) Jackson,
    “President!”
    “I hope you strive to reach that goal.”
    Not so much recognizing the humor as encouraging the student.
    "Miss. (Hakinta) Nnorom",
    “How did you know how to pronounce my name?”
    “I went to school and paid attention, especially to those of other cultures and countries.”
    "Miss. (Samantha) Roberts”,
    “It’s Mrs. Roberts.”
    _“Pardon me.”
    "Okay, your assignment for class is _____. (If I could change it so I could work with them or have them work together I would.) Your homework is written on the board. Do your classwork first. I will circulate to see if you need help and are doing your work. If you are not doing your work I will assign more work to the entire class on your behalf( or on an individual basis if the teacher knew me and found this acceptable…most did.) If you get your classwork done you may choose to work on your homework, do something legal and morally acceptable quietly, or talk with a peer quietly. If you choose to talk quietly I may join your conversation."
    Daggum, if they didn’t usually bust their humps to get the classwork done!
    We talked about clothes, relationships, parents, teachers, premarital sex(within tight limits), what I had done in my life, why was I a substitute(One young man called me a “babysitter” and I replied, “I don’t see any babies.”), etc.

    After 45 minutes some of the students would say, “I/We wish we had you for our teacher instead of ." I would tell them, "You would be just as sick of me as you are of__ after a few weeks.” (I didn’t believe that. I knew some of the teachers had taught the same thing the same way for about 20 years. The only thing different was the textbook.)

    It’s been 17 years since I subbed and some of the “kids” still remember me.



  • Actually, this reminds me of some of my own favorite substitutes. 🙂
    The ability to actually get students to do work when you’re not the regular teacher is always good…you’re on your way to making my heroes list! :lol: Not a major accomplishment, by any means, but also not just handed out to everyone. :roll:



  • El Jefe,

    Well hell, if I’d had not known better, you could’ve made a nice Pope. 😉
    I tend to be the evil-good teacher, so that helps. 🙂



  • @El:

    Emu_,
    When you learn your history as well as Yanny has after being educated(read as “assaulted”) by Xi(and then again by moi) we can discuss this topic logically.

    El Jefe’s notes : Ronald Reagan passed the largest tax cut in US history(1776-2003) in 1981(with the people’s approval, but the grudging support of a Democrat House and Senate.) The Reagan economic boom lasted from 1982 until 1998. There was a minor recesssion(1991-1992) during the GHW Bush Administration, however it was ending(Oct., 1992), before the election, but too late for the #s to get out, even while William Jefferson Blythe Clinton carped “It’s the economy, stupid!”(Great presidental words!)

    President Clinton’s administration did little to nothing to help the economy(which actually was helpful.) President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton passed the largest tax increase in US history(1776-2003) in 1993(with the people’s disapproval, but the gleeful support of a Democrat House and Senate.)

    From before 1998 to today the defunct Clinton Administration has claimed that the economy was great until after “Slick Willie”(You know what a ‘willie’ is doncha? You know why Clinton’s is ‘slick’ doncha? Just another indication of his character…) left office.

    In 2000, during the election campaign, economists examining the Clinton-touted economy numbers found and published proof that President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton and his administration had fudged the numbers since 1998. The economy had been going sour since the third quarter of 1998. Slick Willie and his administration lied about the US economy for the last two years of Clinton’s service “to protect and defend the constitution of he United States.”

    Yet the economy was good from 1992 until the beginning of 1998. To know not to make changes to somethign that works also requires a level of competence, IMHO.

    If you want to discuss scandals in American history, I’m sure you can find them in almost every president’s administration. Does that make them all incompetent fools? If they successfully covered it up and are remembered in history as good presidents, then they must have some sense of intelligence.


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