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[cystic crypt]

@Janus1:

ah, but depending on pov, that could be considered cruel and unusual, while death is the “humane” thing. I dont see it in these terms, but thats a viewpoint some would have.

also, keeping these people in prison ad infinitum is a waste of money, esp. if the prisons are kept at their current level, or improved, as some seem to want.

think about it. this guy kills someone, gets convicted to life in jail, now the person he killed is dead, and this guy lives the rest of his life with three squares, access to exercise equipment and reading, possibly tv, games/sports, and social interaction. for many lowlifes, homeless etc. that commit the murder, this is a step up, many commit petty crimes when they need a “break” from their life, to go to prison for a stretch. all the while, the public pays for it. is that justice?

i believe recent studies have indicated that there is a much higher cost of killing criminals than having them in jails.

[Grigoriy Ivanovitch]

ah, but depending on pov, that could be considered cruel and unusual, while death is the “humane” thing. I dont see it in these terms, but thats a viewpoint some would have.

Yes, but here’s how I see it: homicide is one of the worst crimes anyone can commit, therefore, it should be punishable by the worst form of punishment. If they’re not going to impose the death penalty, what else can we do?

also, keeping these people in prison ad infinitum is a waste of money, esp. if the prisons are kept at their current level, or improved, as some seem to want.

It has been said that it wastes more of the people’s money to have the death sentence appealed. While I have no idea whether or not this is true, it is possible.

think about it. this guy kills someone, gets convicted to life in jail, now the person he killed is dead, and this guy lives the rest of his life with three squares, access to exercise equipment and reading, possibly tv, games/sports, and social interaction.

Unfortunately, yes. If they’re going to waste money in the prison system, at least waste it on the guards and facilities, not the prisoners. When I say 60 years (life sentence, I figure 20 yo lives to about 80) of solitary, that’s what I mean-a 12 by 12 cube, meals consisting of bread and water, delivered with no human contact, and that’s about it.

[Janus1]

CC, that is entirely possible, but id like to know the specifics. do they mean the cost of keeping them in prison vs. the cost of the execution itself, or the whole proceeding (does it include all the appeals, and the fact that most on death row die in prison, they are not executed?)

b/c if it does, than thats not what i am advocating. like i said before on another thread, if sentenced to death, take them out behind the courtroom and put a bullet in their head.

[cystic crypt]

@Janus1:

CC, that is entirely possible, but id like to know the specifics. do they mean the cost of keeping them in prison vs. the cost of the execution itself, or the whole proceeding (does it include all the appeals, and the fact that most on death row die in prison, they are not executed?)

b/c if it does, than thats not what i am advocating. like i said before on another thread, if sentenced to death, take them out behind the courtroom and put a bullet in their head.

ahhhh God bless America.
:-?

[sherman28]

And God Bless Canada!

(or will I get in trouble there for insulting atheists by
saying God in public…?)