Who will be CA governor in 2004(a 60 day question)?


  • Of course it could happen, but the Dems are so split lately on candidates, I dont think it will. Not to mention that Schwarzenegger is not your typical conservative. Its hard to give him a political label, hes defined as a conservative, but hes very liberal on a number of issues, so he might pull liberal support.


  • Word to all none Californians, we’re not real big fans of Buztamante here, probably less so than Gray Davis…


  • Schwarzenegger it is then.

    But, now Buffet, the Terminator’s Econ Advisor, is saying property taxes are too low. That will lose Ahnold the property owners’ votes. Well, Bob Hope is dead so he’ll vote Democrat. Barbara Streisand will vote Dem until her property slides into the Pacific. So I guess it will be no worse for Ahnold.


  • Buffet, the Terminator’s Econ Advisor, is saying property taxes are too low

    Wow, I didn’t know someone so smart could also be so stupid.


  • It’s offical… I just heard about it on the radio, Ah-nold is such an idiot. At first I was okay with Buffet (a Demo) being Ah-nold’s economic advisor, because I thought he would give small buisness in California a real shot in the arm.

    However, now he’s going after property taxes, saying that their not high enough! What a lot of crap, CA has some of the highest property taxes in the whole of the Union (not to mention the most expensive real estate) and we have Prop 13 because of it. If what Buffet is saying is correct, then my taxes for property tax go from $6,000 to $15,000! That’s absolutely ridiculous!

    Anyways, unless Buffet retracts his statement, I’m not going to vote for Ah-nold. Screw that, I’ll go for someone else. And so will the fact that the whole of California gave Ah-nold a real backlash when Buffet announced it.


  • If what Buffet is saying is correct, then my taxes for property tax go from $6,000 to $15,000! That’s absolutely ridiculous!

    :o :o It certainly is ridiculous! I think $6000 is too much, but then again, I’ve never owned any real estate and certainly none in CA, so maybe I just see big numbers and freak out. :)


  • Yeah, especially since housing cost are so high in CA.


  • Raising taxes may just be the solution here. Cutting costs could work, but your going to be cutting some major things unless you find some way to increase revenues. To do that you need to bring business back to California, but how do you do that? Do you attract big business or provide some way to encourage small business to grow? I vote small businesses, for they have more growth potential.

    Of course you’ll never get a politician to say what I just said. Theres only one that will talk straight, and he didn’t run for reelection.


  • Property taxes go to local governments here. Are they a state tax in CA?

    I thought maybe Ahnold was looking for a way to shoot himself in the foot when he picked Buffet. I think I was right.

    And Drudge had on his website that Ahnold now has liberal Democrat Rob Lowe collecting celebrity $ for Ahnold’s campaign. How long can this Circusfornia go on? Another 7 and 1/2 weeks.


  • Raising taxes may just be the solution here. Cutting costs could work, but your going to be cutting some major things unless you find some way to increase revenues. To do that you need to bring business back to California, but how do you do that? Do you attract big business or provide some way to encourage small business to grow? I vote small businesses, for they have more growth potential.

    California had the largest budget surplus in history before GD took over, now it’s 35 billion in debt. To raise taxes on the citizen (because of the new projects, special interest groups, and project overlays) is something I call irresponsible. :-? And what small bsiness do you want set up in a state with one of the highest income taxes and that you want to raise taxes again on?

    Property taxes go to local governments here. Are they a state tax in CA?

    Yes.

    Of course you’ll never get a politician to say what I just said. Theres only one that will talk straight, and he didn’t run for reelection.


  • Teej, leave a little kcrap under your last post?

    Schwarzennegger(22%) is second to Buster(25%) in what seems to be a second rate poll. The California Field Poll has a 5% margin of error…

    SOURCE :
    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/recall/20030816-9999_1n16field.html
    @Yanny:

    Raising taxes may just be the solution here. Cutting costs could work, but your going to be cutting some major things unless you find some way to increase revenues. To do that you need to bring business back to California, but how do you do that? Do you attract big business or provide some way to encourage small business to grow? I vote small businesses, for they have more growth potential.

    Of course you’ll never get a politician to say what I just said. Theres only one that will talk straight, and he didn’t run for reelection.

    What the H-E-double toothpicks!! Show me a civilization that taxed it’s way to prosperity and I’ll have you commited('cause there’s never been one!

    Yeah, cut health care to illegal immigrants. That’d save 1/2 billion a year. Cutting state covered benefits for union non-government employees(heard about that Grayout Davis payoff earlier this week) would save another 1/2 billion a year. Let’s see… since the California debt is figured at 38.2 billion for the next 2 years… multiply 1/2 billion + 1/2 billion(savings mentioned above) times(x) 2… and we’ve saved the people of the state of California 2 billion dollars(low estimate, because then illegal immigrants wouldn’t be coming to California so quickly[compounded annually…WOW!.])

    Yes, small businesses are the backbone of our economy. Big businesses(100 or more employees) employ less than 10% of American workers. Small businesses are what it takes to become big businesses(Wal-Mart, Mickey D’s, Ford, IBM…shall I go on?).


  • Schwarzennegger(22%) is second to Buster(25%) in what seems to be a second rate poll. The California Field Poll has a 5% margin of error…

    i dunno where this UNION-TRIBUNE gets its information from, but it sure runs counter to every other poll I’ve seen (most favoring Ah-nold by 50%). Ask yourself this, can you find any other sites that offer the same results?


  • Yeah, I caught that breeze and blew it this way to see what it stirred up.

    I read that Bustamante will have trouble keeping the black vote. Two years ago he was giving a speech before a black group when he used the “N” word!

    SOURCE:
    http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/8/17/122800

    It has a further source there, too.

    I once had a thought that we should let NY and CA do what they want and learn from their mistakes. They’ve both made some big mistakes!! Now I really believe it. The problem is that few learn from their own mistakes, not to mention mistakes made in another state 20 years ago for example.


  • Bustamante is mainly popular with the hispanic vote anyways.

    I once had a thought that we should let NY and CA do what they want and learn from their mistakes. They’ve both made some big mistakes!! Now I really believe it. The problem is that few learn from their own mistakes, not to mention mistakes made in another state 20 years ago for example.

    Good idea. But I believe the Civil War shot any such example of that straight to hell, my dear.


  • The United States had the biggest budget Surplus is our history before Bush took over. Now we’re in the worst debt of our history. No one is asking to recall Bush?


  • Judging by the polls… that might not be that far off…

    At least for Bush, we knew the economy would be going down since late 98’ (or mid 99’ depending on how much Clinton was willing to show)


  • shut up yanny.
    now that thats out of the way, the recall should not take place. even though I am a republican, and would love nothing more than to stick it to a democrat (figure of speech, there are things i love more), this is a democratic system. much as i dislike and disagree with it, thats what we have. as such, since the man has not done anything other than be a crappy governor (possibly up for debate, i dont know much about the man, being from NJ), there is no reason to remove him from office. he should serve out his term, and the morons who elected him should have to deal with their shit. next time, elect a better governor.


  • I agree with you Janus, against this recall. I say, let the democrats feel the heat for putting an incompetant governor in office. Ride the last two years out know that the democrats will be in a bad position come the next election and stay away from the mess in Sacromento.

    But for better or for worse, what’s happened happened. It’s time to choose the candidate that can govern CA the best.


  • exactly, and further, its irresponsible to spend more taxpayer money on a special election. its ridiculous.


  • Oh well… the constitution must be followed

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