sorry Imp… I can only split threads into 2 threads, can’t combine… but good idea :wink:
A good Japanese Strategy
-
You are forgetting that all your IC’s and ARM take up loads of money? I’m sure Japan won’t be able to hold out for long against a 2 front war (Russia from the North, USA and UK from the South). But this leaves Germany breathing room. And trust me, a German player without fear of invasion is a very dangerous thing indeed.
-
If Russia and UK use IPC’s to attack Japan, then thats that much less to attack Germany. Russia usually wont send in 7 inf to yakut to defend, that gives Germany more of an advantage. Same with UK. If it spends money on Industrys and tanks, they cant spend it on navy.
-
I personally think the Allies are best off when they designate either USA or UK to fight Japan, and the other one helps USSR against Germany. In this case, UK (if they’re the one against Japan), they can spend some money on ARM and ICs while USA uses her money to put ships in the Atlantic to help USSR and threaten Germany. If USA wants to go after Japan, UK should stick to a fleet…
If UK can protect Africa, they will usually have enough money to put 3 ARM in India each turn AND a couple TRs in UK, provided USA lends them some protection…
Just my thoughts…
Ozone27
-
If you build an IPC in india, Japan will throw everything it can into india to take it right after you have placed it, before you can use it. The UK should focus on Germany and assisting russia.
-
Thats the point. Make Japan throw everything at it, while Britan only uses half it’s income. Its efficient, and gives Russia some time.
-
I don’t know. Handing a free factory to Japan in the strategically located India will come back hunting the Allies in the later stages of the games. Besides, on T2 Japan can still invade the Soviet Far East with its Navy.
-
UK can choose a time to place their prospective IC when Japan can’t immediately attack and take it all away. Yeah, putting an IC on India when Japan can “throw everything she has” at India and take it is a dumb move–but one that’s easily avoided if you just look at Japan’s current deployment.
Ozone27
-
Well I think that a T1 or at most T2 deployment of an IC is when it would be needed most. Other then that, you still have to wait a whole turn until you can actually start producing units (ex. T3 IC, T4 production) On T2? Well Japan will have usually taken Eastern China and the Soviet Far East by then, well out of the reach of India. However it also depends if Japan ships large loads of inf. to Burma on T2. Even if UK does buy a 2 ftrs., 1 inf. (highly unlikely), India still has the chance of falling.
-
Indian IC - Why? Well, I support it for 3 reasons.
Britain goes before Japan (as opposed to an American IC in asia)
America’s money is better spent
Britain can delay Japan for as many as 10 turnsIc on First turn, Build 3 tanks second turn. Japan could not get anything sufficient to mainland until turn 3. By then, I will have 4 tanks, 5 Infantry (2 more if Austria was evacuated in time) and a Fighter.
Note, I evac Africa of British troops. This means the Transport is not in a Blocking position and Japan may attempt to seize India. In that case, America should build an IC in Sinkang.
-
I assume you mean “evac Australia”…
Ozone27
-
In my humble opinion I have never seen an American player build an IC in China Sinkang. You risk Japanese take over in T2, a Japanese take over of the IC would result in a dagger poised at the heart of Russia, and it does take a huge chunk of change to defend (i fully expect a purchase of 1 maybe 2 ftrs) which combined measures to 39 IPCs. I would much rather spend those IPCs on transports and inf.
Now time for my response on a British IC in India. First, I have no idea how you would manage to evact troops in Australia. Uk only has one transport near the Pacific which is desperately needed to transport the inf. from Syria to India. This of course makes the transport an easy target for Jap planes.
Also the number of 4 tanks and 5 Infantry confuses me. How did you manage to procure this number. By the beginning of T3 Britain’s own forces should have 3 ARM (purchased), 1 ftr, 3 inf which were already in India. Do you think that the German would not attack Egypt on T1?
Of course if UK does intend to build an IC in India T1, then T1 will probably be the turn that Japan usually goes after it, not T2. Now what can Japan do T1? 1 ftr from Manchuria, 2 inf and 1 ftr from Burma, 2 inf from trans. in Philippines, 1 bomber from Japan. This is a total of 4 inf., 1 ftr (the other will most likely go to attack the UK trans in the india sea), and 1 bomber? Results? Over 45 percent of the time Japan will win with 1-2 inf. remaining in India. About 25 percent of the time India will not be taken, with the other 30 percent a Japan victory.
Now what about a T2 attack? Even a T1 attack on India can be blunted if USSR transports 2 ftrs. from the motherland to India (though you risk losing a great defense against Germany T1 if RR.
UK should probably have the 1 ftr., 3 ARM, 5 Inf (2 from US inf from Sinkang to India) if you want to purchase 3 ARM. Hoever, Japan is by no means ill prepared. It can muster 6 inf. (4 from Burma, 2 from Kwangtung). 3 ftrs and 1 bomber (this is if you decide to bring the other 2 ftrs. to Pearl Harbor T1. Results? Once again we see a Japan victory 66% of the time. 34% percent of the time, Japan’s Air Force will be completely intact. Don’t like these odds. What you could do instead is send another 2 inf. from Japan via transport. This increases to odds at 90% victory for Japan. 56% of the time Japanese airforce will still be left intact. Of course by invading India, it hurts German in the short run as Russia still remains intact. However, with India, China completely cleared Japan can act like a true juggernaut going after Soviet Far East,the MiddleEast, and/or Sinkang T2. T3 leaves even great possibilities for Japan by adding Australia, Africa, and South Russia all to the list with Japan’s new factory in India.
-
In my personal Opinion, Japans main point in exsisting, Is to take some of the allies attention away from Germany, and to force russia into a two front war. Since Japan has a larger Pacific fleet then America does, after you deystroy the hawaiin fleet, the coastal fleet will run to panama with its tail between its legs. While japan attacks china, india and russia, this takes IPCs away that cant be used against Germany. Japan Is usually the turning point against The sovies.
Suggested Topics
