Map gets looking better and better…
I think you should remove the Japanese convoy at Wake… Don’t think Japan had any convoying in that region.
I like the British Convoy in the Western Mediterranean.
I saw some discusion on the US Convoy in the Middle of the Atlantic, well I think it could represent American support for it’s own troops in England and later Europe. Not necessarily Lend Lease.
Thought about my suggestion on splitting the seazone of the Philippines? And maybe also even the Islands?
I hope "we"can get an agreement on those convoy boxes and rules… Btw, looking forward to the fifth draft for tomorrow.
@Imperious:
The convoy box represents a point that you can attack a nations income on the high seas because the convoy box is representing all the supply/trade that nation is comsuming to stay in the black. Its a point of interception of the transit of income. The Convoy box should not have a value itself, but rather a maximum value that can be destroyed from a nations IPC pool.
say each box has a value that represents the maximum value that can be destroyed in a turn. Thats what the number should represent which would simplify the accounting.
This is the way to go for this map! It is easy to play, and will reflect the importance of convoying very well…
On Convoys
No don’t remove any, I would say… Convoy rules could be for the Optional rules.
British
Move the Spanish coast convoy box to the western Mediterranean. This to resemble all the British convoys to Malta and Egypt via the Medd. Will make Gibraltar and Malta more important for the British to keep.
Don’t remove any! Britain was just like Japan depending on the Convoys. The U-boat war wasn’t for nothing.
Soviet
Place the Soviet convoy higher and closer to Norway
Place a new Soviet convoy box off the coast of Kamchatka to resemble far east supply.
Japan
Keep them. Only make Philippines two sea zones. Or possible move the box that is close to Japan to between Sumatra Java Borneo or better add it. Japan was very depending on convoys especially from the Dutch East Indies.
US
These are all fine. The US must not be to vulnerable to Convoy attacks
Italy
Fine
German
Maybe create a small German convoy in the Baltic to resemble the ore deliveries from Sweden to Germany.
Then I would vote for British (Free French), because Allies are probably not allowed to attack Neutral territories?? If Alllies are allowed to attack those Neutrals, then option A.
Pdel21, I never said that you did favour German controlled Vichy territories south of the Sahara… But don’t let us get into a fight here. We all want the same, a nice gameboard!
The naval combat board is not good. It is the old version I think. The "0"box is gone, AP still at 1 and CV and 1 or 2 or 3…
Pdel21, I really don’t understand why you make such a big point out of it for not adding Vichy…. Yes Deepblue is doing a great job with the map and already has made good changes, and looking at what he has done so far, Vichy is just a minor change…
German in controll of Madagascar and South of the Sahara is to unrealistic, both historic and for gameplay.
Vichy rules;
If attacked by either side, all Vichy territories immediately join the opposing side.
Pro-Axis Neutral, Vichy France and Corsica territory income go directly to Germany until Vichy is drawn into war. Germany and Italian forces are allowed to fly over all Vichy territories.
Setup: Vichy France 3INF, all other 1INF
This is easy and much more historic then just German colored and under their control.
Further, shouldn’t East Poland also be Russian BTW?
Minor issue; the Air combat chart still has Dive-Bomber on it, instead of Fighter Bomber.
Like IL already mentioned, great job on the “new” sea zone look. It will be looking better and better.
On sea zone lining: could the sea zone ring/zone of Norway/ Denmark be connected to the border of the Netherlands and West Germany? Don’t like it that the North Sea sea zone is now adjactant to West Germany, meaning amphibious bridge is directly possible between London and West Germany… Don’t think this is nice for gameplay.
And maybe make two sea zones of the Philippines sea zone. It is rather large now. Make it an upper and lower part sea zone. Then maybe also split the territory accordingly…
I think the current 5 VC’s for Germany are the best choice for game balance and historic importance. Though Helsinki and Budapest could also work…
For your fase 5, please do change Vichy and add Corsica :wink:
You could also choose to add one more VC to the Axis (Japan) in return then. Saipon on the Mariana Islands. This city was vital in WWII, because it was the first base that brought the Japanese homeland in reach of Allied B29 bombers, other then the Chinese mainland.
Did you also have some thoughts on the OIL cities/territories IL’s suggested?
I do like Chungking as a separate China VC. Panama city is the best for the US, but Dutch Harbor could also work. Panama city could be an option for both Germany and Japan, while Dutch Harbor only for Japan. But I admit, it is both a longshot.
AAP rules for China, well OK, but with some more options please… Like possible ART purchases… via Lend Lease etc…
Maybe make a block at the bottom off the 1 column, just above the casualties zone.
Did we change the AP value? It is still Attack 0 Defend 1 Move 2 right? Only they can be taken last as a hit.
OK. But also change Belorussia. Just give it a small setup later on. So that Germany can invade it easily.
Why decided to not change Bellorussia and Western Ukraine to Russia? It is June 1941 at the start of Barbarossa… I think you should change this.
See: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/36/Operation_Barbarossa_corrected_border.png
I think roads in Europe are unnecessary, jut like they are not needed in the US. Roads and Railroads all over the place. No need to add them.
I will keep my thought on the IPC’s Also want change in Hungary and Rumania. And before had comments on the East Indies.
@jim:
I thought the Alaskan highway was put in in the 1960s?
-jim lee
No, no…;
The road was originally built mostly by the US Army as a supply route during World War II. It was completed on the 28th of October 1942.