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Question Regarding Normandy/Bordeaux

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What’s the argument to be made to not take Normandy/Bordeaux as the Axis? I may be delusional, but I’m sure I’ve seen that idea floating around on various threads. From what I’ve seen, it had something to do with powers with occupied capitols and the IC there.
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W@W captain walker (axis) vs dawgoneit

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@captainwalker the last game was fun.
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Jim101 Allies +30 vs Karl7 Axis Europe 1940 OOB a.k.a 2 old men laugh at death

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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Europe 1940 2nd Edition

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Round: 4 Combat Move - French 3 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria French take Algeria from Italians Combat - French Non Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Morocco to Gibraltar Turn Complete - French
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NML 1914 game 13

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that said it is really an exciting instance of the setting we are having here. And be assured Entente are not cocksure of victory or anything like it. some voices were heard wondering if we should continue.

“gras is always greener on the other side” fits it well.
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2023 BM4 Playoff - Ghostglider (axis) vs Farmboy (+15)

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@Ghostglider will finish UK in a bit.
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PTV ArtofWar (Ax+12) v AxisDominion (Al)

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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 11
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 11 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 2 marines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from New Britain to 48 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 48 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 1 destroyer moved from 11 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from 27 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 4 tactical_bombers moved from 27 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Norway to 115 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 2 fighters moved from Norway to Holland Belgium 3 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium 2 tactical_bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium Combat - Americans Battle in Solomon Islands Battle in Holland Belgium Americans attack with 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Germans defend with 2 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 9/12 hits, 5.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium Americans win, taking Solomon Islands from Japanese, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 bomber, 6 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in 26 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 submarine Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 26 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 5.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 26 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 26 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Americans 1 carrier moved from 65 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 65 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 65 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 65 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 48 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 48 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 3 carriers moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Johnston Island to 27 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hawaiian Islands to 50 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 2 fighters moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Norway to 115 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 3 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Norway 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Norway 2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Norway 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Norway 2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe Place Units - Americans 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Norway 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States 2 destroyers and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 marine placed in Western United States 1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 104 Sea Zone: 1 carrier EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 11 Sea Zone: 1 carrier EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 4 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Kwangsi 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 9 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 9 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/10 hits, 2.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 8 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 3/9 hits, 1.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 artillery and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Battle in Kwangsi Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangsi Chinese win, taking Kwangsi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Anhwe 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Hunan Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Hopei 1 infantry placed in Jehol 7 infantry placed in Anhwe Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 23 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 6 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux Combat - British Battle in Normandy Bordeaux British attack with 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 cruisers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 4.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux British win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 107 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom 2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from 100 Sea Zone to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Crete to 100 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Western India to Eastern India 3 artilleries moved from Burma to Yunnan 13 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 aaGun moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 15 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines moved from 100 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to United Kingdom 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to 113 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Egypt to Eastern Poland 1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Eastern India to Burma Place Units - British 3 infantry placed in Egypt 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in United Kingdom 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 113 Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.33 Americans regular : 1.67 Japanese regular : -0.50 Germans regular : -1.00 British regular : -0.17
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L24 PTV MikawaGunichi (X+12) vs Daaras

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 2
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 2 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa Italians take French Equatorial Africa from French 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 117 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 117 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 117 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in 117 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters Russians defend with 1 cruiser Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 117 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 117 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in 117 Sea Zone 1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 117 Sea Zone Italians win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Fleet Scuddle: has removed 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer owned by Neutral_Axis in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Italy Occupies Algeria Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Algeria Trigger Italy Occupies Morocco Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Morocco Trigger Italy Syria France Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Syria Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Army Disband: has removed 1 artillery and 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France Trigger Italy Occupies French West Africa Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in French West Africa 1 bomber moved from 117 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from 117 Sea Zone to Germany 1 armour moved from Greece to Romania 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia Italians take Tunisia from Neutral_Axis 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France Italians take Southern France from Neutral_Axis 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy 1 infantry moved from British Somaliland to Ethiopia Place Units - Italians 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 99 Sea Zone Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Army Disband Facilities: has removed 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Facilities: Italians has 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour placed in Southern France Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.50 Russians regular : 0.50
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L23 Playoff BM4 Avner (Axis) Sovietishcat (Allies + 10)

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@Avner Do you scramble sz 97? UK 5 scramble.tsvg

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