Posts made by Driel310

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This move by the Russian BB also came up in our game this afternoon. We decided it was not allowed since the rules state that you have to control Denmark to pass.

However we have to wait what the rule book says and if the rule book doesn’t cover this what Krieghund clarifies.

That one is not a true NO of course, but it’s from part 3 of the preview by DJensen. Krieghund also confirmed it by saying it won’t be in the global game.

We are playing a AAE40 game tomorrow but unfortunately that will have to be without NO’s unless they pop up tonight… (hint, DJensen, hint  :-D).

So far we have the following:
Germany

• 5 for denmark, norway, and a neutral or axis sweden.
• 5 for being at peace with the soviets
• 5 for each soviet VC
• 3 for having a land unit in egypt

Soviet Union
+5 for being at war, no allied units on their territories and SZ125 and controlling Archangel
+6 for each original german territory if they have all of their originals

• 2 inf in Novosibirsk while being at war with any axis

UK
+5 for getting rid of the subs in the atlantic

Italy
+5 for getting all the allied warships out of the med
+5 for southern france, egypt, and greece

USA

• 30 for being at war

France

• 4 inf when Paris is liberated

They would need to take over Gibraltar first and then sail through the big Atlantic…… Not sure if they can pull this off before the USA kicks them out.

@Krieghund:

@Napoleon:

And for the infantry pop up……apply to global too?..seems so

No.

Those 2 infantry are free gifts in the Europe game? So you don’t have to pay 6 IPC for them right?

Thanks for the clarifications Krieg.  :-)

Now here’s the trick, that’s how you see it, but how did the game designers see it?

The Russian declaring war on Germany if attacked by Japan thing is not quite clear to me. The text can be explained in two directions.

When a major industrial complex is captured, immediately downgrade it to a minor industrial complex. Adjust any damage to be no more than 6.

This is pretty new and unexpected……  :-o

Meaning Germany can forget pumping out a lot of units in France nor producing 10 inf a turn if they can pull off a succesfull Sea Lion.

Don’t make the mistake of letting yourself guide by Miamibeach on this one.  :-)

By making the attacks as I described against the UK fleet you have a good chance of pulling off SeaLion on G3. G2 is too early IMHO and performing poor attacks against the UK fleet might see your invasion fleet be sunk on UK2 (50% battle is good enough for the UK to leave the Italians and attack the Germans).

However when talking tactics I always reason from optimal play and average dice. And with those two in mind, UK has nothing better to do with her CV and tactical then attacking the Italians in the Med in SZ 95. That’s the topic of this thread if I am correct.

Germany still has one fighter and five subs to kill a lot of UK fleet. With your BB+CA from the Baltic you can take out the UK CA and French CA in SZ 112. Then you send out 2 subs to the DD+trn fleet and 3 subs + 1 ftr to the BB+CA fleet

That leaves UK with 1 BB, 2DD’s , 1CV and 1 tactical to counter your SZ112 fleet. Your Canadian fleet can’t reach SZ112.

@miamibeach:

I’m not suggesting attacking the German fleet without the CV/TAC and DD from Gibraltar…they are key in that attack.

I would never do a Sea Lion turn 3 as Germany…thats what Dani is suggesting.

My attack on the German fleet is: 2BB, 1CA, 2DD, 1TAC, 1CV(4,4,3,3,2,2,0)
vs
1BB, 1CA, 1CV, 2FTR, 1SUB(4,4,4,3,2,2)

UK has 3 soak-offs, Germany 2.  50/50 battle from my perspective…this is why I would consider building a SUB rather than an extra TRS as Germany…which would make Sea Lion tougher since as Germany I would have 2 less ground units vs the 9 UK INF.

For the second time I ask you, why do you keep believing that UK will have 2 BB’s, 1CA and 2 DD’s left after G1???

I see I made a typo too, I meant to ask, why do you think UK has 2 BB’s and 2 CA’s left after G1?

Now, you state that UK will still attack with 2 BB’s, 1 CA, 1 DD…… They won’t have so much left after G1 either.

If the Luftwaffe and the U-boats do their work properly, you have 1 BB, 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 tactical and 1 CV to counter the German SZ 112 fleet making it (4,3,3,2,0) against (4,4,4,3,2,1). Now how are those odds?? Attacking that is playing like my son of 18 months.

Plus you forget that by placing the CV with the French in SZ93 you can shuttle the Egyptian fighter + the tactical you start with to UK on turn 2 to defend against a turn 3 Sea Lion (of course they have to survive the attack against the Italian BB-fleet).

Why do you think that UK will have 2 BB’s and 1 CA’s left after G1?

You give the answer yourself. It’s not possible.

@bugoo:

You must already be at war to conduct a convoy raid.  The raid occurs during the collect income phase of the nation that is being raided.  In rare cases, say for example the axis control Normandy and the allies control Spain, and both the UK and germans have a sub in SZ 105 during the collect income phase of the owners of the territories, they would both suffer the income loss.

And what happens if let’s say Germany owns Normany and Italy owns Spain? There is one UK sub in SZ 105. Who loses the 2 IPC income? Or do they both lose it, in which case one sub delivers 2x2 IPC damage……  :?

Ok, those seem fair naval attacks. Some are a bit tricky (2 subs vs 1 DD and 1 BB, 1 CA vs 2 CA’s) but it can be done.

Then on G2 you buy like 7-8 transports to make G3 invasion right?

So that leaves you with 18 ground units (you start with one transport, and I presume you have 18 ground units to load from the starting setup) against Britain’s 9 built on UK1, 9 (maybe 10 too hard to tell) on turn 2 + 2 Canadians. That’s 20 ground units (perhaps 21). Air power should make the difference than… UK can have 2 air units defending (Tactical from the ark royal + ftr from Cairo). Germany will have most likely 3 air units, but those have to face the UK flak first…

All and all a tough attack on G3 to be honest.

Miamibeach, true if you can counter the SZ112 fleet of Germany you don’t go after the Italians I guess.

However if you can’t or Germany does not go Sea Lion this is very good attack and I am not quite sure this attack was foreseen during playtest.

p.s. you talk about 9 inf defending UK, but what about the Canadian troops coming in?

It’s true that infantry will spawn, but remember those are friendly infantry units. In fact they become your property. So why would you have to stop for your own units…. Bulgaria is a good example. Can Germany use their tank blitz on NCM to control Bulgaria or not?

I don’t think you have much chance to make 2 hits. You have 11,1% chance the first round and a very slim chance to make one hit the second round + UK not making two hits on defense the first round.

Also if you make this attack, I think your Sealion chances will deminish because you can kill less UK North Sea fleet…… :wink: