Cool. Maybe now we can get a FAQ for the Zombie game?

So there is a new AH game to be announced today. Claiming to “breathe life into a decade old Legacy”.

Worth noting:

• The original Legacy game (Risk) is a decade old.
• It is the 40th Anniversary of A&A
• The prevois “anniversay” edition (AA50) is no longer displayed on their website. https://www.avalonhill.com/en-us/toys-games

A&A or not, I am excited to see what they bring. AH has finally been rescued from WotC purgatory, and hopefully has good things coming. If today’s announcement is not A&A, we could still get something new soon. :)

Not looking great. 1914 edition is no longer displayed on their product page.
https://www.avalonhill.com/en-us/toys-games

To be fair, the website is undergoing an upgrade. Still, they have kept some A&A titles up, but not others (Zombies and AA50 are also MIA).

So there is a new AH game to be announced today. Claiming to “breathe life into a decade old Legacy”.

Worth noting:

• The original Legacy game (Risk) is a decade old.
• It is the 40th Anniversary of A&A
• The prevois “anniversay” edition (AA50) is no longer displayed on their website. https://www.avalonhill.com/en-us/toys-games

A&A or not, I am excited to see what they bring. AH has finally been rescued from WotC purgatory, and hopefully has good things coming. If today’s announcement is not A&A, we could still get something new soon. :)

I am not that old! But I do remember when this site had very little activity - maybe came in fourth after Don Rae’s site, Thrasher’s site, and the Avalon Hill forums. :)

I am here! What do I do?

Awesome! I bought a copy years ago, and almost got it to the table once!

A big difference in this game is that newly built ICs have unlimited production. USA can build a factory in Finland and spend all there money there.

Cool. Maybe now we can get a FAQ for the Zombie game?

Obviously the Zombies add rules.  The question is, what have they added those rules to?  And the answer is a simplified version of A&A.

Why do you think SBRs, new ICs, AAAs, etc were not included?

1. Because WotC thought this would improve the game for seasoned players?
   Or,
2. because they wanted a more newb friendly product?

You can believe what you want, but I’m going with 2).

As for the complaint that the Pacific theatre is downplayed, that sounds like almost every A&A game I’ve ever played.  It’s almost always KGF.  If you don’t like that, I (again) recommend using your Zombies as a 1942.2 expansion.  The base game was clearly not intended for those of us who want a deeper experience.  I’m surprised anybody here is even playing it, other than to get a feel for the new mechanics.

@Caesar:

You’re going to argue what we’re told at Wizard….

I’m not aware that WotC have denied this being an entry level game.  Where did they say that?

But as a former MTG player, I can assure you that WotC do not publicise design decisions out of a desire to inform us!  It’s all just PR.  I don’t trust anything they say.

Facts speak for themselves, and A&A&Z is significantly simplified compared to any other title (besides 1941).  What does that tell you?

@robert:

What is needed is new ideas/scale/eras to make the continuing of the series viable.

• The name ‘Axis & Allies’ refers specifically to WWII

• I like variety.  When I play Diplomacy, Supremacy 2020, Conquest Of The Empire, Shogun, etc, I actually enjoy that the core rules and mechanics are fundamentally different than A&A.

players

@Caesar:

The problem is that Zombies is NOT an entry game, it IS a reboot to bring life to an IP that has a fanatical fan base.

How is this a reboot when it is an expansion to 1942.2?

A&A&Z has 2 marketing goals:

• To sell s new toy for enfranchised players

• To entice new/millennial gamers with sexy, pop culture

The first group (I expect) will gravitate to the 1942.2 expansion for a deeper game.

The new board will be enjoyed by vets for the fact that it is a new.  But this is an entry level game.

• Fewer areas?  Check.

• Reduced economy?  Check.

• Fewer unit types?  Check.

• Simplified rules/mechanics?  Check.

The base A&A&Z game resembles 1941 more than 1942.2/AA50/G1940.

1941 was clearly meant as an introductory game, but to the uninitiated it is just another A&A title.  Zombies will lure a lot more new players.  AH/Hasbro know this, and have designed the game accordingly.