I’ve played 2 games with friends and we ended it around round 5-6 each time (5-6 hours).
I played a full game myself and it lasted 16 hours.
Does anyone have friends that will actually finish the games up to +14 hours. It seems like the game is too long. Most of the last 5 hours is just one side clearly winning and just trying to capture the capitals.
My question is, is anyone finishing games that aren’t solo testplays?
I didn’t say they couldn’t win. I just said they haven’t won in my OOB games. I’ve only had 3 so not much to lean on.
Why did you attack so much with Italy? they have no chance in attacking the Austrians. Also how did you get Ottoman units into Africa?
Ok do a test game. However give France a extra BB, 2 cruisers in med sea. Give them a lot more units in their home Tt’s. You can’t just switch Italy to the CP’s without giving France more. You would also have to beef up Russia. The Austrians no longer have a 2 front war. This will allow then to ship all their units to wipe out Russia quickly. But wait there is more. Now you have to capture both Paris and London.
So try the game out, but make sure you add units to Russua and France greater than it equal to the initial forces of Italy. This isn’t a horrible idea. However, you need to come up with cobcrete evidence and play testing to make others believe
Turns 9-11 Review:
Well just finished the game and it was an overwelming Central Powers victory. In the end, the CP’s controlled all but UK, Canada, USA, and a few Russian TT’s that were locked after Revolution (Denmark, Holand, Spain, Norway, Sweden were also not taken). This was a very fun game, and I think the Munich factory might be a little much. It seems to overpower France. I had the game won at turn 8. However, I wasn’t able to capture Paris until turn 11 (due to trying to get all my troops transported up. The Ottomans kicked ass because I failed to build enough units in India. I sent around 30 USA troops in all to Picady and Belgium and they did absolutly nothing. I think they would have been better served in Albania or somewhere in the east to drain IPCs from Austria or Ottomans. The CP’s ended with 159 IPCS and control of the Med sea. I’m not sure if it was the fact that I didn’t use USA to its full advantage or if I let India fall that lost it for the Allies.
Has anyone played a game with the Munich factory? Do you think it adds too much power to Germany. I feel it does. The only thing the allies have going for them is the slow supply lines of the CP’s. In this game, I had a pretty quick time getting units to France.
Total rounds:11 Total game time: 16.5 hours over the course of 5 days (solo test play). very long game if you play it out to the victory conditions. I could have ended at round 8 and just played 12 hours. That is still a long game not to have finished. Well it was fun.
Would you guys like me to post pics from roundds 2-11?
In the 4 games under my belt, the central powers have had no problem taking out Russia. We have also not experiemented with the UK lending any help to the Russians. I don’t know if it is even possible to send troops to help Russia.
My thoughts so far on Russian strategy. Send all the units that you can into Poland to slow German advance to Moscow. Pray that Austria does not mobilize Romania turn 1. If Russia has a chance to mobilize they have a much better chance at lasting a while in the Balkans. They just don’t have the money, troops, or assistance to hold out against the 3 pronged attack which is the Central powers.
I think they were designed to fall, and to just be a bee sting for the Central powers to overcome. The real challenge for the Cp’s is France, and UK.
Turn 8 Review:
Well, Rome was just taken by a joint Ottoman-Austrian attack. Now the hordes of Central Powers troops will thrust the wheel of industry upon Paris. Oh, how it must feel to be crushed by a million angry Germanic men. Burgundy is even stacked with 21 French infantry, but still it is a losing battle. Both the Austrians and the Ottomans have 3 transports and are having no trouble getting men into Western Europe. The USA is still stuck at 20 IPCs and they couldnâ€
t even take the 1 TT assigned for them (Belgium). They will try to send another wave of fresh recruits, but they will just be cannon fodder for the German guns. Now it is a race to Paris. Who will win, the Ottomans, Germans, or Austrians? With the world watching, the fate of democracy is in the fate of a few brave Parisian men. This has been a very fun game and I am glad the CPS have finally pulled out a victory. Stay tuned for the exciting final 2 rounds.
The central powers can’t win OOB with any strategies I’ve played. However I ended my first 2 games pretty early.
I think the best move for USA is to land the first wave of troops in Albania.
This really helps divert attention from ParIs and Rome. Austria can’t afford to lose Serbia, Albania, and Romania. So they have no choice but to attack the US troops.
Well I didn’t send hardly any Austrian units to Russia, Germany and ottomans took them out. Also l, attacking turn 1 with the German fleet seems a bad move. It is better to keep it there and build a few more ships. I’ve sunk the UK navy twice.
The UK couldn’t afford to place units in India so the ottomans had an easy time there. Also I was able to escape the UK with one infantry to take Egypt and allow ottomans to move in. Since France has been threatened so much. They have only been building inf and art. No money for ships. This has allowed A-H and Tirks to get their navy back
Check out my post in House rules forum. It has detailed turns of 1-5
If you attack any of the beige neutrals like Norway, Denmark, Spain, then they get the opposite alliance to mobilize troops.
If you attack Spain with France then you pick which Central Power nation to represent the mobilized troops.
you mobilize x2 the IPC value (all infantry and 1 artillery). So Germany gets 7 infantry and 1 artillery to use against the attackers.
You have been playing wrong, and this may have been why the Central powers were winning so easy.
I’m assuming your talking about Russian TT’s?
The TT’s adjacent to Moscow are
Ukraine
Belarus
Livonia
Tatarstan
Karelia.
All other Russian TT’s fall into the other Russian TT for Revolution Rules
I will post pictures of turns 2-the end after I finish the game. I forgot to take a picture after turn 1, but I’m sure you all know what turn 1 would look like anyways
Well BJcard, I just sacked Bombay with my Turks on turn 7. My first game, I built more than 4 due to the fact that the Allies ruled the seas. This game Germany is keeping up in naval power.
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Turn 7 Review:
Ok guys so right now the CPâ€s are making 118 IPCâ€s compared to the Allies 82. The Ottomans are straight kicking ass. Plus, the CPâ€s now control the Mediterranean sea. France and Italy havenâ€t had any money to build navy, and the USA has been stuck in Belgium for 2 turns. I think the best route for the USA is to land all its troops into Albania (assuming the allies control the Mediterranean). This would throw Austria off and maybe divert attention away from Italy. I will take Italy next turn due to Austria holding Tuscany and Turks holding Naples. Hint: if the Germans have lots of ICPs it is wise to build a BB per turn. Iâ€ve done this twice and have sunk the UK navy (including around 8 transports). They havenâ€t had any real troops movements into France the whole game. The USA isnâ€t as scary as I had hoped. Sure they can bring lots of troops at once. However, they have about as much trouble supplying the fronts as Germany does. 2 turns there and 2 turns back for transports. The CPâ€s are in major control of Africa since Germany captured Egypt and allowed the Turks to move 3 inf and 2 art over. I then crushed the remaining French garrison. The Turks will get 12 new African IPCs over the course of 3 turns. I could allow some USA troops to go and contest Africa but I feel that would be a waste of manpower. The game is the CPâ€s to lose at the moment. France and USA are still holding up really well against Germany. However, once Rome falls, it will be a little easier to take Paris (with Austrian help). I might have just pulled out a CP win. Oh btw, the Turks just sacked Bombay. This seals the fate for the UK in my opinion.
Yes max of 4 units, and India has a max of 4 units
How the heck did Russia have 64 units defending Moscow? You get 25 IPC’s a turn and the Russians have no way of getting more if the CPS attack hard.
25/3 8. 8*4 32 infantry after 2 turns.
Did you just abandon Poland, and also move all starting units to Moscow? I don’t see why you wouldn’t at least try and slow Germany down in Poland
**Turn 6 Review: **
The Allies are winning, but the Germans have more men than I counted on. Iâ€ve been slowly building the German navy up the past 4 turns (4 BB, 1 Cruiser). The UK fleet of 2 BB, 2 cruisers, 1 sub attacked this turn and the Germans won the battle with 2 surviving BB. I think this is a good sign for the CPâ€s. The Ottomans have a force of 5 men in Egypt and are only opposed by 2 remaining French troops in Africa. They will have some easy IPCs the next few turns. Meanwhile, Burgundy is still being contested and Belgium is held pretty firmly by UK and US troops. I will have to allow some of my reserve Germans to come up the lines. India is now being contested by the Turks and it will fall turn 7. Russia revolted this turn, so now my Germans and Ottoman troops can slowly make their way back towards the Western front (they wonâ€t see any more action this game). Rome is still holding its ground as the Austrians are still having supply difficulties. I did, however, force the Italian navy out of Trieste port by building navy with the Ottomans. This allowed the Austrians to build 1 sub, 1 cruiser, 1 transport. They will now be able to transport more men into Tuscany. I have more hope the CPâ€s after turn 6 then I did for turn 7. This is due in part mainly because the victories at sea. We still have a game on our hands people. The USA will not be able to bring any sizable force until 3 turns. This may by the Germans enough time to take Paris. If they donâ€t take Paris by 3 turns it is all but over.
Check out my review of the first 5 turns of my latest play. You will see how the CP’s fair
Turn 4 Review:
The CPâ€s are at the gates of Moscow but a revolution will occur before I will be able to take the city. That means they will have to capture Rome and Paris. At this rate, I donâ€t believe they will capture Paris. Rome will be taken in 2 turns by Austria. However, Germany is very thin on the Western front and USA has 12 troops in route to Belgium. I donâ€t see the Germans holding off USA, UK, and France. On the other hand, the ottomans have 26 IPCS and are kicking the crap out of the Russians and Indian troops. UK has been forced to build navy and has all but abandoned building troops for India. Bombay will be taken in 2 turns. I wish this counted as a victory city. Because the CPâ€s would be well on their way to victory. I donâ€t know if I should attempt to build an ottoman navy to try and take some IPCS from Africa. This would really slow down the UK and might allow me to get the upper hand on the Western Front. It is all up in the air at the moment, and we will have to see how the US troops fair against the battle hardened German troopers.
Turn 5 Review:
The Germans are all pushed back to their borders (with the exception of Switzerland). They still have 44 IPCS, but they are now fighting USA, UK, and France in the Western front. Austria is still stuck in Tuscany with little chance for that to change (super slow supply lines from Vienna on land). The Ottomans seem to be the only Cpâ€s doing any work (due to the fact that UK canâ€t afford to supply India). I feel the game will be over for with an allied win in 3-4 turns. Even with the factory in Munich, and the extra cruiser for Austria , the supply lines were still too slow for Germany and Austria. The only thing that will make sense is some sort of rail system. I mean, come on I had France begging for mercy (they were crying in their homes). However, troops ran low and I had to halt my offensive. Now the Americans have come to save the day. It seems to be a trend. Right as the Germans are getting ready to crush the French; the Americans jump in and thwart it all. It is also near to impossible to invade UK. If the UK wanted, they could spend all their money on navy and still not allow Paris to fall. Supply lines are too slow and it pisses me off. The central powers have no chance of winning. Making Russia revolt is very easy for the Central powers. Other than that, everything is all uphill for the allies.
Turn 1 Review
Well the factory in Munich really adds an intimidation factor for France. I found myself holding most of my units on defence, where I went on the attack without the Munich factory. The added cruiser to the Austrian navy really helps them hold their own in the Mediterranean. I feel who ever attacks first will get lots of casualties. Russia is faring well against the CP because most of Austria went towards Italy. � I would give the edge to the CPâ€s after turn 1. No need to go into much detail about turn 1. Most of you guys know all the opening moves by now.
Turn 2 Review
Germany is winning in the Western front and Italy is being pushed into Tuscany (both northern TT taken). � Ottomans are winning in the Middle-east. Germany is about even in the Battle for Africa. With the sinking of the Austrian navy, I feel that will put a little more pressure on Austriaâ€s southern TTâ€s. It will also be harder to keep supplies coming in for the Assault on Rome. I feel the Axis needs to capture Rome and be close to Paris before USA enters the war. Russia is holding its own against the CPâ€s but it will fall in 2 turns. Turn 3 Review
The Germans are at the Gates of Paris but are running low on troops. I donâ€t feel I will be able to capture it before US A comes to war. I was also at the gates of Rome but they destroyed the Austrian army in Tuscany. It will take me 2-3 turns to get within range of Rome. The Ottomans are kicking serious but right now are have a solid 26 IPCS. They are 3 turns from taking India and then they will be able to go cash in on some needed African IPCâ€s. The Russians are still holding ground, but since Poland fell, Moscow will soon be in ruins. I will try to avoid a Revolution so I can capture Moscow for the Victory city. Allies have been beaten thus far, but I donâ€t know if they can keep the steam against the USA troops arriving turn 5. They will be able to land a solid 12 troops into northern Europe or the Balkans. I feel they would be better used to protect Rome and to play with Ottomans. We will see how the next German turn goes before I make an rash decisions on USA placement.
Flashman is right. I am currently at the gates of Paris. Have troops in Picardy, and burgundy. However the bulk of my men are in Munich and Ruhr. It will be 2 turns until I get them there. Meanwhile the USA is going to land a solid 12 troops into Picardy, Belgium or Piedmont.
It was announced on the FAQ that USA can’t load transports until turn 4. So why would you even want to take your Warships out of port?
To be honest I never had any problem with that rule.
To be clear let me see what you mean by leap frog.
Scenario: Ukraine is contested by 12 Austrian infantry and 3 art. They are fighting against 10 russian inf. On Austrias turn, instead of fighting the battle decides to push all of its units into British controlled Tarastan. Is this allowed?