While my group does not put all of Italy’s fleet in one zone . We do move the transport off egypt to south africa. The destroyer from egypt goes off the coast of gibraltar with the cruiser. Also attacking carriers can only be taken as casualties after all other pieces with an attack value have been detroyed.
This seems to even things up a bit. In addition a german inf. and art. in Libya.
I picked Germany , I like the ability to have a sound strategy to start that can’t be impacted what others do . USA for a relaxing no stress game. UK for a challange . I have a love hate relationship with Japan. OOB or Alpha +2 without our house rules , I would rather shoot myself in the face.
I take advantage of mistakes . But I always forgive minor missed things. LIke moving a space or such . Me and my friends ask “if anything can atttack these pieces” questions . Bottom line is I want to win because of good strategy and solid play not because of a stupid mistake. Would i warn someone they under defended their capitol , depends how expierieced they are . We usually warn no one unless they ask for help reading the bored then questions are answered as honestly as we see. In one on one it’s a lot to look at .
That is exactly why I attack the Canadian tran/dest asw ell/ Summed up nice Jimmyhat.
The only problem I see is that in all my games the german player sends 1-3 subs after the Quebec destroyer, it never lives. As canada is easy to convoy.
J1 attack on Hawaii should easily fail to take the island. I would not scramble my planes to save that crappy navy . You only have one TT that can reach in Alpha +2 . So at best your inf and tank are up against 2inf and 2 fighters.
I didn’t vote because my option wasn’t there . UK to weak . My only concern with the UK is they have too much in France . They should have the inf . in france and the plane in Normandy both in London . That would end most sea lion problems.
Itlay should have it’s fleets combined or all aircraft in Southern Italy or both.
Germany should have a minor presence in north Africa and or the med. trans or sub or inf and art in Libya.
US need less ships to start . Get rid of Trans in Hawaii and both ships in Phillipines. Give UK India another trans .
Let Japan attack DEI and Solomons chain without American DOW .
So in summation UK(Europe) , Italy , Japan weak
37 Ipcs 2mech , 2 tanks , 2 arty, 3 inf. If Germany does not attack you G3 then buy ships and planes or whatever . Germany just lost the war.
Never let Germany sealion on the cheap G2 . If they build 2TT and a carrier G1 protect London. If they don’t I always build an IC in egypt UK1 . I have never seen Germany win in global not attackig Russia G3 .
We use a rule that attacking carriers are treated like transports in that they can only be chosen as casualties when no other piece are left. They still have to be chosen before TT . Also if subs are defending and only planes are left then the carrier has to take any hits .
But it seems rushing carriers into battles to take hits is a bit silly . On the defense make sense they were prime targets and they could fight back . But just using a capital ship as fodder with no attack value make no sense to me . Please respond.
In my last Alpha +2 game it both screwed me as germany against an american fleet and aided the Italians round 1 vs. UK.
Me and my friend just completed a game of Alpha +2 . We made a few changes in the pacific that balanced things out nicley for us.
We removed the TT from Hawaii and gave the UK india fleet an additional TT.
Japan recieved an additional TT in SZ 6 .
We removed the FIC NO from Japan .
We changed the US DOW to any attack upon US territories , australia , India , or Hong Kong , or the capture of London.
We also use a rule that Aircraft carriers on the attack can only take hits when all other attack value peices have been removed as casualties or just subs and the carrier and its planes are left. This also helps italy with it’s fleet survival.
New carriers better for me. Like the soak and the defending “tip” decision.
The only problem I have with carriers is being able to bring them into a suicidal fight, to land fighters that have moved their max range to arrive at the fight. The hwole rule that states " you can assume all your enemies attacks will miss and all your will hit is silly". This rule alone screws italy in the med. Every game the carrier gets suicided in A+2 to kill Italys fleet and allows fighters from London into the fight.
I would also like to see the US have a trigger for going to war. I would suggest .
The axis capture of London
Attack on any US territory obviously.
Any attack on Calcutta(inc. ind. bombing) or Australia(any part) . Including convoying.
Japan attacking Russia , if only to make Japan more likely to stick to it’s treaty.
Also remove the FIC NO for Japan . But they can attack other Uk/anzac pacific territories and the DEI , solomons ect. Without bringing US into war.
LOL , snuck in as an Morroccan dancing girl . Not yet familiar with all the abv.
Thanks for everyones replies. We got to play test only about 5 turns before I went on vacation. We ended up giving India a 2nd transport in addition to the above mentioned changes. Even without an IC in Egypt the british held out fairly well . Italy still took Egypt but southern africa was still pretty strong . The UK India sent one trany + the one from south Africa to destroy the italians in ehtiopia. Then supplied them from south Africa as Egypt fell. Italy owned the med. , most of North africa (US took back morrocco and Gib. in one fell swoop.
Germany hit Russia on round 3 hard and by turn 5 had lenningrad , Ukraine. and about 25 tanks headed toawrd moscow. Backed by men mech and 6 tac fighters.
Japan failed an attack on India but held off the US navy and still had a huge navy herself. They owned then DEI and all of China . Some of Russia and had a major IC in Kwangsi? (3 pt province).
The US was heavy atlantic with a many transorts . Germany had a large inf. art, and plane force in France to repel invaders.
UK was just recovering to rebuild it’s navy . But Russia would probably fall soon .
All in all the players found it balanced . and we will do more playing .I like the idea of a german tran in the med instead of men .
I will take in the nerfing US ideas here that have been presnted as well. Thanks AgaIN FOR ANY AND ALL INPUT.
Uk still has strong enough moves in the med . They can block with ships Italy hitting egypt round 1 . They can eliminate tobruk even if two germans move in . With two ftr , tac, tank , 2 inf, 1 art, 1 mech . They can also reinforce with inf. from south africa . Or hold Egypt and hit Ethiopia with south africans and mech and tac.
As for Japan they need something to help them out. They lose the 10 ipc from FIC but can quickly start gaining island NOs and ipcs . It has been my expierience in all my global games (about 10+) that japan never gets any of the solomons chain of islands . Unless they crush India.
The whole suicide carrier aspect of global screws Italy in the med with planes from england being able to fly 5 then land a carrier that will take two hits most likley before they can. Why have a big fleet if it’s gone before you go . With a stronger home defense England can afford to spend some money in Africa.
I appreciate any and all cooments thaks . I will try to post a round by round . me and my buddy have about 40+ years A+A betwen us . I agree after a re-read that the onus may now be on the allies.
I will be play testing Alpha+2 global tomorrow . With the following changes . Game is tomorrow at 1pm est. so send me any feedback on these changes.
Germany - Moved 1 inf. 1 art( with italians there already) from Germany to Libya to represent Rommel.
Russia - as is
Japan - moved transport from sz20 to sz 6
moved cruiser from sz 20 to sz 33
Removed FIC NO from Japan . Repalced with new US DOW for pacific , US can only declare war end rd 3 or when Japan Attacks a VC in the pacific. Or of course any US territory.
UK - Removed plane and inf from normandy and placed on England.
Removed Inf. from France and placed in Normandy (alla Dunkirk)
Moved carrier from sz 98 to 39 and placed India planes on it. Tac bomber from carrier went to Egypt.
Destroyer from sz 98 went to sz 91
Cruiser stays in sz 98
Transport from sz98 to sz 71
Italy as is
US - Changed mexico NO to bonus 5 ipcs for allies controling French north africa and Gibraltar.
Made Us east/central/west NO 5 instead of 10 and added NO for allies controlling 3 of 5 of the following France , normandy , Southern france, North and south italy.
France and china unchanged
Using OOB order of play
After reading many posts it would seem Japan needs Ipc’s early but can’t get them without bringing US into war. Why not get rid of FIC NO and replace US war declaration with the taking of Calcutta or Sydney . Like the London DOW in the atlanic. This would allow Japan to attack many dutch Islands that it traditionally held when the Us entered the war. Maybe move the UK BB and the Anzac ships a space out of reach to start.
I agree with questioneer on NO in Africa for US . Also maybe move brti. inf. in France to Normandy , going along with my previous move of ftr and inf.(from Normandy) to London.
Also my friend suggested taking a German Inf and art from south germany to Lybia.
We are going to playtest these and my above suggestions this thur-friday.
Hello everyone new to the site . But 20+ years A+A expierience. I have played alpha 2 now several times both axis and allies winning.
I would suggest the following changes free for critique.
Germany - would not change much . Maybe shift a couple more(2-3) infantry toward france for G1 from Germany to West germany . Germany seems in the singular spot of having to capture a well defended capitol round 1 or lose the game.
Russia - would not change much here . I would like to see the 4inf. pop up for it or Japan for breaking the treaty.
Japan - lots of changes . I would remove the NO for French Indo-China and allow Japan to attack UK and Anzac as they pleased . With the restriction that if they attack India east/west or Australia/New Zealand then they provoke war with the US or attack US as per usual. I would give back transport to carolines . This would allow Japan the much needed IPc’s by contesting the DEI early and denying Anzac the solomons.
UK- I would remove the inf. and plane from normandy and add them to London.
The fleet by Egypt I would break up . The destroyer to SZ91?(by Gibraltar) with the cruiser there. The cruiser I would leave . the Tac bomber to egypt . The Carrier to india . The transport to south africa. The carrier would give abit more fleet vs. japan . This would also allieviate Italy of all it’s fleet dying . They would still most likley lose the western fleet.
Anzac - as is
UsA - Needs a 10 NO if Gibraltar and all French north africa are in allied hands. In Place of some of there home NO’s .
China- as is
Italy - I agree about air base in North Italy.
France as-is
Commander Jennifers idead of OOB order is good as well/