Thanks for the response, We had a 4 man game on Friday and the allies actually won the 8 point victory. (due to newer German player and some bad purchases). It does appear that unless you have some real breakdowns for the Axis there is no hope for the Allies.

We will probably stay away from the 8 point victories from now on.

By the way I would also like to get info on some alternate setups.

Thanks Mr. Bo that sounds like an interesting way to get around the imbalance. You stated that your group never plays for the minor victory. Have you found that a 9/10 point victory level is a pretty good game. Quite frankly I would think that trying to get to 10 points makes for a very long game and only delays the inevitable. It would seem that if one side or the other has 9 victory cities and is in position to control another then the losing side has very little hope of coming back.

Hi all, I realize this question may be fairly common, I have seen some discussion of it here and on other boards but I would appreciate any additional comments. It does appear that it is quite difficult for the Allies to win a 8 VC game. Calcutta and Lenningrad seem to be too “accesible” to Axis players who are skilled and determined to pursue them.

What have been some successful counters to this apparent Axis advantage?

What is the best balanced alternative Victory Conditions, a 9 point game or are there better options?