Subs attack with torpedoes and the rules for torps are different than gunnery attacks.

Torps score hits when a ‘6’ is rolled and they cause the target to lose 2 hull points so the battleship does not have a defense factor like the armour rating vs torps. Keep in mind that there are a couple of special abilities that modify the damage a torpedo does, the two most common are torpedo defense or TD1 which removes one point of hull damage from a torpedo attack and most Japanese destroyers and cruisers have Long Lance torpedoes which actually cause 3 points of damage to the target.

There are some other special abilities (SAs) that give you a roll and a roll of 4+ will remove a point of hull damage and there are probably another couple but they escape me at the moment…either way, this is the base example of how submarines attack

Are these the pieces you have or are they fleets you have built?

If you look at both forums with ‘new eyes’ this looks like a forum for the board games with some talk of the miniature games while the forumini is the other way around, if I want to talk board games, I can do it there but the interest is much higher here. There’s nothing wrong with either…just different

Thanks for the promo hkytown1   your check is in the mail

gperson2, if you are interested, take a look at my sale thread and I`m sure we can work out a good deal or even just a good kit as a starter

Hypothetical question: If the attack resolution rules for 1914 were the same as the other A&A games, which current first moves would you change and why…for example, I would change my opening moves by AH to build up forces to attack Italy first and just build up a force in Galicia rather than attack Venice and Poland…I would still have to attack Serbia, but I would hold off on Albania…

I’ve found a three-direction attack for Austria is best: attack Italy via Venice (with a possible amphib attack Tuscany), Serbia & Albania and finally Poland…I find a Russian attack on an unprotected Galicia commits them to spreading Russian forces more thinly, plus having a stronger AH-German Force in Poland means Russia will not get Poland back without fantastic rolls