Subs attack with torpedoes and the rules for torps are different than gunnery attacks.

Torps score hits when a ‘6’ is rolled and they cause the target to lose 2 hull points so the battleship does not have a defense factor like the armour rating vs torps. Keep in mind that there are a couple of special abilities that modify the damage a torpedo does, the two most common are torpedo defense or TD1 which removes one point of hull damage from a torpedo attack and most Japanese destroyers and cruisers have Long Lance torpedoes which actually cause 3 points of damage to the target.

There are some other special abilities (SAs) that give you a roll and a roll of 4+ will remove a point of hull damage and there are probably another couple but they escape me at the moment…either way, this is the base example of how submarines attack :)

Are these the pieces you have or are they fleets you have built?

If you look at both forums with ‘new eyes’ this looks like a forum for the board games with some talk of the miniature games while the forumini is the other way around, if I want to talk board games, I can do it there but the interest is much higher here. There’s nothing wrong with either…just different :)

Thanks for the promo hkytown1 :-D  your check is in the mail ;)

gperson2, if you are interested, take a look at my sale thread and I`m sure we can work out a good deal or even just a good kit as a starter :)

Hypothetical question: If the attack resolution rules for 1914 were the same as the other A&A games, which current first moves would you change and why…for example, I would change my opening moves by AH to build up forces to attack Italy first and just build up a force in Galicia rather than attack Venice and Poland…I would still have to attack Serbia, but I would hold off on Albania…

I’ve found a three-direction attack for Austria is best: attack Italy via Venice (with a possible amphib attack Tuscany), Serbia & Albania and finally Poland…I find a Russian attack on an unprotected Galicia commits them to spreading Russian forces more thinly, plus having a stronger AH-German Force in Poland means Russia will not get Poland back without fantastic rolls :)