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Friendly Neutral Territories

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Hello, Recently my friend and I discovered an issue with minor industrial complex placement . The friendly allied territory of Persia I rolled into it with my American Sherman tanks and wanted to place an industrial complex on it. The rules say that a minor industrial complex can be placed on a territory with an IPC value of 2 . Persia meets that requirement. I say it can be done my friend says it can’t. Anyone out there have any thoughts on this? The rules just state territory with at least a value of 2.
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L24 PTV Max334 (Axis +12) vs Nikola

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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 16
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 16 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 45 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 53 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 aaGuns, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales Place Units - ANZAC 2 submarines placed in 64 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs Combat Move - French Turn Complete - French
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BombsAway (Allies+20) vs Simon33 (Axis)

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Seems like you aren’t enjoying this game at all.
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L24 OOB LL AndrewAAGamer (X) vs Myygames (L +60)

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@Myygames

I just realized I forgot to copy you on this post so you probably have no idea I started the game.
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MyyGames (Allies+55) vs Simon33 (X) OOB Low Luck

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

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Round: 4 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 6 artilleries, 1 carrier, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians 2 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria 2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Manchuria 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Manchuria 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Manchuria 2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Shan State to 37 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Shan State to Yunnan Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to Java 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan Combat - Japanese Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport ANZAC defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 transport in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine and 1 transport Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry ANZAC defend with 1 artillery Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/1 hits, 3.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Manchuria Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 4 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Manchuria : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese lost in Manchuria Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Manchuria, round 2 : 5/0 hits, 5.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 4 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Manchuria 4 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Manchuria Japanese win, taking Manchuria from Chinese with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun and 4 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East 2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Kiangsu EDIT: 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Kiangsu 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol 1 aaGun moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan 1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe EDIT: 2 bombers moved from Manchuria to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from Java to 37 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 battleship, 2 carriers and 2 fighters moved from 44 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to 35 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier placed in 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in French Indo China 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Malaya Japanese undo move 3. 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry placed in French Indo China Japanese undo move 4. 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in French Indo China 3 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 59 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
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Chinese regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : 0.17 ANZAC regular : -0.50 Russians AA : 0.50
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Violate a true neutrals?

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@zooooma said in Violate a true neutrals?:

Is this ever actually a good idea?

Would it ever make sense for USA to capture Spain in order to invade Europe via Gibraltar; needing only one defensive fleet instead of two?
The money saved on navy, plus the expediency, could possibly be worth the consequent boon for the Axis?
Particularly if Mongolia had already turned Russian?

Sorry that I’m sure it’s been discussed before. Dug back a bit but didn’t find anything.

If, or when to, activate the Neutrals, is a very big part of any OOB Global 1940 game. While it does not happen in every game it certainly happens enough to prove that it is an important dynamic to the game.

Both sides should be consistently paying careful attention to “Should I go for the Neutrals?” as the game progresses. Looking for the key indicators that show the Player that “Yes, now is the time to attack the Neutrals.”

Typically, there are three reasons to go for the Neutrals:
Axis #1: The Allies have left their SZ91 fleet exposed if the Neutrals are attacked by Italy, specifically Spain, and that allows the Germans to annihilate a large Allied fleet on the cheap. Allies #1: The game has come to a standstill and neither side may improve their position as the board is deadlocked. By accepting a short-term disadvantage, the Allies will gain a long-term advantage that may swing the game in the Allied favor. Allies #2: As you mentioned, the Allies are not making sufficient progress in landings on the European coast so they revert to the simpler strategy of landing in Spain.
Normally, it is the Allies who are attacking the Neutrals and typically they will set up such an attack by being prepared to hit Spain (USA), Portugal (USA), Venezuela (USA), Saudi Arabia (UK) and Turkey (UK) all on the same Turn. In later Turns Chile plus Argentina (USA) and Angola plus Mozambique (UK) are taken. Typically, killing these 28 infantries results in about 11-13 Allied losses or about $36 worth of troops.

The gain in income for the Allies is $15 a Turn. The Axis will usually gain 8 infantries from Switzerland and Sweden, or $24 worth of troops, and $3 a Turn in income from Sweden. That means the total initial loss for the Allies is 60 TUV. (36 troops killed plus 24 infantries gained Axis). Compare this to the $12 swing in income and you can see it take about 5 Turns for the Allies to recoup their initial losses and start making gains from their strategic decision.

As long as the Allies can last those 5 Turns then making the attack makes sense.

BTW, you will notice I did not include Afghanistan as usually the Axis are not able to gain those 4 troops because either they can never liberate them or the Allies kill them at a loss of usually 1 ground unit.

So to specifically answer your question… YES it makes sense depending on the circumstances.

Finally, I did not include Mongolia as usually by the time one of the Powers attacks the Neutrals Mongolia has already been made Russian by Japanese activation. If, Mongolia is still a strict neutral at this time they too would slide over to the other side.
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L25 OOB Booper (X) vs Peirce (L+43)

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@peirce

Made an edit to leave 1 additional fighter back in Japan.

Please use the 2nd save file.
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L25 PtV Daaras (Allies) vs Nikola1975 (Axis + 12)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 artillery and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 marine moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 100 Sea Zone to Crete 1 armour moved from Northern Belarus to Novgorod Italians take Novgorod from Russians 1 armour moved from Novgorod to Smolensk Italians take Smolensk from Russians Combat - Italians Battle in Crete Non Combat Move - Italians 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Syria Italians take Syria from Neutral_Axis 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria 1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone Place Units - Italians 3 transports placed in 97 Sea Zone 1 artillery placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 17 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUs
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