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@mikawagunichi Another incredibly difficult Japan move. But several of my small battles went well.
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"East & West" by Imp Games - Discussion

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@The_Good_Captain said in "East & West" by Imp Games - Discussion:

You don’t even need to buy a nuke as NATO

Correct, the US and UK instead need to add how many transports to the board, to even be viable? Compared to how many the USSR needs?

You’re trying to do the “crying poor” argument as the USSR, and it doesn’t wash because I’ve already laid the numbers out.
If the USSR “needs” 2 nukes and 2 spies to win the game, that’s 60 IPCs
If NATO needs 3 spies and at least 4 transports just to be competitive, that’s 62 IPCs already. So let’s call that a wash, for the sake of argument (maybe it’s 2 spies and 5 transports, etc.)

If the USSR is collecting 70 IPCs at the end of their 2nd turn (which, they are) that’s already putting them at 35 inf compared to a (reasonable, but generous/rounded up) 32 for all of NATO; if that trend holds, the USSR can basically afford to not purchase 3-4 infantry for 6 rounds, build 2 nukes with that money instead, and put the game out of reach – while still being at parity w/r/t ground forces.

And that’s to say nothing of the fact that after turn 2 they can likely/reasonably still boost their economy by invading:
[one of] Sweden or Finland Switzerland Afghanistan
…at a time when NATO is maybe maintaining parity in France, and often is struggling or failing to hold onto Italy.

Prior to rd3 NATO is only ever nibbling around the edges of the USSR, and at best they’re “trading” those territories – meaning both sides cash them in. The problem is that trading territories is a losing proposition for NATO, because their infantry cost so much more.

If NATO spends 2 infantry to kill 1 infantry and take a 2 IPC territory, and then the USSR spends 2 infantry to kill NATO’s 1 surviving infantry to take back the territory – guess what? We’ve both lost 6 IPCs in units for 2 IPCs in territory… but the USSR started with the territory, and also ended with the territory.

This is why the game stagnates; there’s no point for NATO to attack, unless they can either a) catch the USSR with their pants down, taking out tanks or aircraft with a nuke or paratroopers or similar, or; b) make a big enough landing that it can’t be pushed back, and also can be continually resupplied. Yes I’m talking about Kamchatka.

The problem fundamentally is that nukes are a hard-counter to anything NATO is doing involving transports, while the hard-counter for nukes is…? There isn’t one. If anything, the only counter is to be winning the game militarily/economically, which I think I’ve pretty clearly established that NATO is not the faction which is in the driver’s seat, in that regard… in addition to being at a disadvantage in spying, too!
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L25 PTV Adam514 (Axis+14) vs axis-dominion (Allies)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 20
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 20 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 13 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 bomber moved from New Britain to 45 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 47 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 47 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 4 tactical_bombers moved from 47 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 6 fighters moved from 47 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 47 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to 47 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 47 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 marine moved from New Britain to 47 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 45 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan Japanese take Yunnan from Chinese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Kweichow 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kweichow 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Kweichow 1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kweichow 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Kweichow 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 transport ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 45 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Celebes Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 marine ANZAC defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 marine in Celebes, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Celebes, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Celebes Japanese win, taking Celebes from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry Battle in 55 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 6 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 7/10 hits, 5.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 55 Sea Zone from Americans with 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Hunan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Hunan, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Kweichow Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Kweichow, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow 1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow Japanese win with 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 43 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 5 submarines Americans defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 5 submarines in 43 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 43 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 43 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 5 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Japanese 6 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from New Britain to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to French Indo China 2 marines moved from New Britain to 47 Sea Zone 2 battleships and 2 marines moved from 47 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 transport moved from 47 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Solomon Islands to 55 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 2 infantry moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 4 fighters moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone 2 carriers moved from 37 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 2 cruisers and 2 marines moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 47 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 6 carriers moved from 47 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 47 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from Sumatra to 43 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Sumatra to French Indo China 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Fukien 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Fukien 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Fukien 2 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Fukien 2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Korea to Northern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Northern Manchuria to 21 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Japan to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea 2 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Siam Place Units - Japanese 1 harbour placed in Java 3 infantry placed in French Indo China 3 infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 infantry placed in Southern Manchuria 2 fighters and 4 infantry placed in Japan 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 7 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,4,6,5,3,2,6,3,6,6,5,6,4,1,6,5,4,2,6,3,5,5,5,5,6,1,2,3,6,5,4,6,2,4,6,1,3,3,3,1,4,1 Japanese collect 54 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.67 Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : 5.00 ANZAC regular : -0.67
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crocket36 (Allies) vs Simon33 (Axis+6) French Rebalance

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Japan got pretty savaged there.
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2024 Playoff OOB Round 1 farmboy (L+45) vs booper (X)

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@Booper given the odds, I will assume no scramble in 97. But posting just in case.
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World at War Captain Walker (axis) vs Entek

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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 14
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

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Round: 14 Combat Move - French 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from W.Morocco to 31 Sea Zone 1 Artillery, 1 Infantry and 1 Transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 Transports moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys moved from E.Morocco to 41 Sea Zone 2 Artillerys, 2 Infantrys and 2 Transports moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter, 3 Artillerys and 3 Infantrys moved from 42 Sea Zone to N.Tunisia 3 Infantrys moved from Syria to Palestine Purchase Units - French French buy 2 Artillerys, 4 Infantrys, 1 Submarine and 1 Transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat - French Battle in N.Tunisia French attack with 1 Adv.Fighter, 3 Artillerys and 3 Infantrys Italians defend with 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 5 Infantrys French roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 3 Artillerys and 3 Infantrys in N.Tunisia, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 5 Infantrys in N.Tunisia, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the French lost in N.Tunisia 3 Infantrys owned by the Italians lost in N.Tunisia French roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 3 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys in N.Tunisia, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 2 Infantrys in N.Tunisia, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 2 Infantrys owned by the French lost in N.Tunisia French roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter and 3 Artillerys in N.Tunisia, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 2 Infantrys in N.Tunisia, round 4 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 Artillery owned by the French lost in N.Tunisia 2 Infantrys owned by the Italians lost in N.Tunisia French roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter and 2 Artillerys in N.Tunisia, round 5 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 Artillerys and 1 Elite in N.Tunisia, round 5 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 Artillerys owned by the French lost in N.Tunisia 1 Adv.Fighter owned by the French retreated Italians win with 2 Artillerys and 1 Elite remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for French: 3 Artillerys and 3 Infantrys Casualties for Italians: 5 Infantrys Non Combat Move - French 1 Adv.Fighter moved from N.Tunisia to 42 Sea Zone 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from Canadian Prairies to Keewatin Place Units - French 1 Transport placed in 1 Sea Zone 1 Submarine placed in 55 Sea Zone 1 Infantry placed in Syria 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys placed in E.Morocco 1 Infantry placed in Churchill Turn Complete - French French collect 25 PUs; end with 26 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -1.00 French regular : -2.33
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L24 OOB Stucifer (X) v Crockett36 (L+120)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 fighter, 6 mech_infantrys and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Malaya to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 armour moved from Shan State to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese 1 artillery moved from Hunan to Yunnan 3 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Yunnan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow 2 artilleries moved from Anhwe to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 21 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Celebes Battle in Borneo Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Java, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 aaGun moved from Jehol to Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria 5 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Korea 3 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe Place Units - Japanese 3 mech_infantrys placed in Shantung 3 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 59 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -0.83 ANZAC regular : -0.67
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World at War Game 21

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@Elrood Germany is up

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