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Odonis (Axis) vs StuckTojo (Allies +24) No VC 19L
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6 TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9 Game History Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 4 armour, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Tambov Germans take Tambov from Russians 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Smolensk 2 bombers moved from Western Ukraine to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Archangel Combat - Germans Battle in Archangel Germans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 2 bombers moved from Archangel to Bryansk 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk 3 armour moved from Novgorod to Bryansk 1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 3 aaGuns, 9 armour, 3 artilleries, 9 infantry, 10 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk 5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 armour moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 2 tactical_bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to Novgorod 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Bryansk 1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Western Germany 1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Bryansk 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France Place Units - Germans 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod 3 armour placed in Ukraine 2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5 Germans collect 53 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 53 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs Combat Hit Differential Summary : Germans : -1.17 Russians : -0.67 Savegame
1914: 3 English gents play the CP and 3 unruly Yanks play the Entente
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TripleA Turn Summary: Communists round 9 TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.0 Game History Round: 9 Research Technology - Communists Communists roll 3,4 and gets 0 hits Combat Move - Communists 5 field_guns moved from Aldan to Khabarovsk 3 infantry moved from Aldan to Khabarovsk 1 infantry moved from Aldan to Khabarovsk 1 field_gun moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi 1 infantry moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi 1 conscript moved from Sakhe to Tiksi 1 infantry moved from Sakhe to Tiksi Purchase Units - Communists Communists buy 1 conscript, 3 field_guns, 3 infantry and 3 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 2 techTokens; Combat - Communists Battle in Khabarovsk Communists attack with 5 field_guns and 4 infantry USA defend with 2 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun and 4 infantry Communists roll dice for 5 field_guns and 4 infantry in Khabarovsk, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 3.83 expected hits Russia roll dice for 2 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun and 4 infantry in Khabarovsk, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits 2 field_guns owned by the USA, 3 infantry owned by the Communists and 4 infantry owned by the USA lost in Khabarovsk 1 infantry owned by the Communists and 5 field_guns owned by the Communists retreated to Aldan Russia win with 1 heavy_gun remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11 Casualties for Communists: 3 infantry Casualties for USA: 2 field_guns and 4 infantry Battle in Tiksi Communists attack with 1 conscript, 1 field_gun and 2 infantry Russia defend with 1 conscript, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Communists roll dice for 1 conscript, 1 field_gun and 2 infantry in Tiksi, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 conscript, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Tiksi, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 conscript owned by the Communists lost in Tiksi Communists roll dice for 1 field_gun and 2 infantry in Tiksi, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 conscript, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Tiksi, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russia, 1 conscript owned by the Russia and 1 infantry owned by the Communists lost in Tiksi Communists roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Tiksi, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 field_gun in Tiksi, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 field_gun owned by the Russia lost in Tiksi Communists win, taking Tiksi from Russia with 1 field_gun and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Communists: 1 conscript and 1 infantry Casualties for Russia: 1 conscript, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Communists 1 infantry moved from Yakutsk to Sakhe 3 field_guns and 2 infantry moved from Yakutsk to Aldan 1 conscript moved from Aldan to Sakhe Place Units - Communists 3 trenchs placed in Aldan 1 conscript, 3 field_guns and 3 infantry placed in Yakutsk Turn Complete - Communists Communists collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs Communists collect 10 PUs from War Bonds; end with 34 PUs Combat Hit Differential Summary : Communists : 2.33 Russia : 0.33 Territory Summary for Communists : Aldan : 1 flag, 1 cavalry, 1 conscript, 12 field_guns, 1 heavy_gun, 11 infantry and 3 trenchs Amur : 1 flag Sakhe : 1 flag, 3 conscripts, 1 heavy_gun, 3 infantry and 3 trenchs Tiksi : 1 flag, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Yakutsk : 1 Factory, 1 conscript, 3 field_guns and 3 infantry Production/PUs Summary : Germany : 73 / 99 France : 89 / 99 Serbia : 12 / 17 Austria : 73 / 79 Italy : 43 / 43 Arabia : 10 / 10 Turkey : 24 / 32 Britain : 165 / 171 Russia : 91 / 103 Communists : 24 / 34 USA : 81 / 81 Savegame
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Doctor Oda (Axis) vs trulpen (Allies), G40, vanilla, no tech, no bid, YGs +NOs
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 1 TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0 Game History Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 battleship and 2 carriers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 cruiser moved from 101 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands Place Units - Americans 1 battleship and 2 carriers placed in 10 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 3 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Scotland to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 111 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Ethiopia Combat - British Battle in Ethiopia British attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Ethiopia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Ethiopia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Ethiopia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Ethiopia British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Ethiopia, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ethiopia, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Ethiopia, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ethiopia, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Ethiopia, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ethiopia, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Ethiopia 1 mech_infantry retreated to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Italians win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry Battle in 124 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer Germans defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 124 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 124 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 124 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 124 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 124 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 124 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 124 Sea Zone Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in 111 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters Germans defend with 1 battleship British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in 111 Sea Zone British win with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20 Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship Battle in 96 Sea Zone British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone British win with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in 97 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3,17 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 cruiser owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2,83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Italians and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport Non Combat Move - British 1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta 1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta 2 fighters moved from 111 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire British take Eire from Neutral_Allies 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia 1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies 3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 fighter moved from Burma to India 3 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from India to Burma 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma 1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia British take Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 artillery moved from India to Burma 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 artillery moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone Place Units - British 1 carrier placed in 109 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in 109 Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 37 to 41 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Combat Hit Differential Summary : Germans : -0,17 British : -1,83 Italians : -1,17 Chinese : -0,67 Japanese : -0,33 Savegame
trulpen (Axis) vs Doctor Oda (Allies), G40, vanilla, no tech, no bid, YGs +NOs
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Full scramble. 3 figs.
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Tirano (Axis) Vs. Trulpen (Allies +19)
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 7 TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0 Game History Round: 7 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 armour moved from Russia to Smolensk Russians take Smolensk from Germans 1 armour moved from Smolensk to Russia 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel Russians take Archangel from Germans Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Egypt 1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Trans-Jordan 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara 1 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia 1 mech_infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 2 infantry moved from Vologda to Russia 2 aaGuns and 18 infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur Place Units - Russians 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia 3 infantry placed in Volgograd Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 34 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 46 PUs Combat Hit Differential Summary : Savegame
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Dice were certainly in my favor in this one.
JDOW Axis vs Simon (Allies+8) BM3
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Hi Simon, thanks for sharing. I see many of those “kill one axis power with force” strategies in the G40 forum and I am not a believer of them. In general, I think the game is designed that Axis is too powerful at the beginning that enables them to withstand any of these “KGF” oder “KJF” strategies, especially if they aim to achieve something major in the first 3-4 turns. In case, Axis is played by an experienced player, I believe there is always a thoughtful response the Axis have to that kind of aggression that thwart the Allied plans and leave the Axis in an even stronger position because usually, the side in the other theatre will get out of control then soon. I believe the major problem is that players try that stuff against inexperienced players that are overwhelmed by that kind of aggression and make mistakes then. However, once the play against a good player, they will learn that the strategy won’t work on a high level. I think this is a bit comparable with gambits or very aggressive openings in chess. While mediocre players are often outplayed by these because they do not find the right response quick enough, the top competition knows how to respond and will the aggressive player leave with a disadvantage.

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