14L G40 wheatbeer (Axis) vs Boldfresh (Allies +15)

[wheatbeer]

bid’s subs SZ91 + SZ98, inf Sudan

Hope it’s a fun one  :-)

[wheatbeer]

Also, before I forget, both sides agreed to no tech and a low luck reroll system (start with 1 low luck reroll each for a battle on offense or defense, if both sides use theirs then they are replenished 1 per side again).

[wheatbeer]

Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.7.0.3, time: 20:34:45

[666]

@wheatbeer:

Also, before I forget, both sides agreed to no tech and a low luck reroll system (start with 1 low luck reroll each for a battle on offense or defense, if both sides use theirs then they are replenished 1 per side again).

I like this wheat-rule…very fair.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 91 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Anglo Egyptian Sudan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 30 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Southern France
            1 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Southern France
            2 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia

[wheatbeer]

@JWW:

@wheatbeer:

Also, before I forget, both sides agreed to no tech and a low luck reroll system (start with 1 low luck reroll each for a battle on offense or defense, if both sides use theirs then they are replenished 1 per side again).

I like this wheat-rule…very fair.

Actually Boldfresh proposed that specific scheme, though I have been using low luck reroll exchanges for awhile the addition of a mutually determined limit to rerolls sounds really good to me (as opposed to turn based reroll accumulation which others have proposed).

I am not sure how allowing it on defense will play out though. That may require NCM/placement alterations for the attacker if used by the defending power.

[boldfresh]

Ok wheat first time I have seen the full g1 save.  Will download and give scramble choices soon this eve.

[wheatbeer]

Bold, can I assume if the defender uses the token, that the attacker has the right to amend NCM/placement since the map could be really different post-reroll?

And what would happen if the Axis wanted a reroll from the USA’s turn that could affect China or UK?

[boldfresh]

In practice it isnt really that tough.  The reroll will not be used willy nilly.  I will give you a few more issues to consider b4 my scramble choices.

[boldfresh]

a LL reroll must go at least one round.

on offense:  if you are going to take the LL reroll, it must be taken immediately after the attack you are going to reroll.

on defense:  if the defender is to take a LL reroll, it must be taken before he continues with his next turn.  the attacker should have a pretty decent idea that a LL reroll will be considered by the defender and can wait for defender to say yea or nay if in doubt.  i have no doubt we can work out any differences in opinion as we go along and as i said, each side has only one, so it will not be spent carelessly.

cheers

now let’s see this innovative G1.

[boldfresh]

scramble 3 ftrs to 110 and 1 ftr to z111.

[wheatbeer]

Germany opens with 5 hits in SZ110 (none are from my submarines)

asking for OOL since you may wish to lose the BB before fighters

[wheatbeer]

wife’s calling me to bed, going to finish my NCM against hobo, then I’m out for the night … will finish in the morning (sorry I’m often a sticker about naval OOL)

[boldfresh]

Will lose boats first in 110.  French ftr last.

[boldfresh]

tip battleship, lose destroyer in 111

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 91 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Anglo Egyptian Sudan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 30 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Southern France
            1 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Southern France
            2 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia

Combat - Germans
            British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone
            British scrambles 1 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 111 Sea Zone
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter; British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  5/7 hits
                    British roll dice for 3 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the French , 1 cruiser owned by the British , 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans , 1 fighter owned by the British , 1 battleship owned by the British , 2 fighters owned by the Germans and 2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 :  2/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 :  2/2 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans , 1 fighter owned by the British , 1 fighter owned by the French and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 111 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 :  3/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/3 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the British , 1 fighter owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 44
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in France, round 2 :  7/17 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 :  4/11 hits
                    6 infantry owned by the French , 4 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 aaGun owned by the French lost in France
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in France, round 3 :  6/13 hits
                    French roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 fighter in France, round 3 :  2/5 hits
                    1 armour owned by the French , 1 armour owned by the British , 2 infantry owned by the Germans , 1 artillery owned by the British , 1 artillery owned by the French and 1 fighter owned by the French lost in France
                Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking France from French with 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
                Casualties for Germans: 6 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yugoslavia, round 2 :  4/13 hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 :  2/5 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yugoslavia, round 3 :  6/11 hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
            Battle in Southern France
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys in Southern France, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French , 1 artillery owned by the French and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern France
                Germans win, taking Southern France from French with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
            3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4
            Germans collect 39 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 88 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 98 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 98
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 26 / 26
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 12 / 12
    British : 28 / 28
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 10 / 10
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 12 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 6 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[boldfresh]

I have never gotten 8 for 8 in z110 b4.  Pretty crazy.

[wheatbeer]

Still can’t decide if I made the right call by not rerolling … good chance of reviving 3 planes. Ah well.

[boldfresh]

@wheatbeer:

Still can’t decide if I made the right call by not rerolling … good chance of reviving 3 planes. Ah well.

tough call

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Russians
            Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians

Combat - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Kazakhstan
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 aaGuns moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov

Place Units - Russians
            3 infantry placed in Novgorod
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry placed in Russia
            Russians undo move 3.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
            Russians undo move 4.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs total