@Veqryn:

there is only one problem with this strategy.
the UK can build its Navy in a SZ that is 3 spaces away from your Fleet build

If you build fleet in the baltic, and put all your fighters in Norway, then UK can build in SZ8.  if you put the fighters in France, they build in SZ2.  if you split them up, you can’t kill a good UK build.

This means that the UK actually gets 2 turns of Navy builds before you can try to attack their new navy.  Yes, you can win and sink their navy, but can you really afford to kill 60 ipcs of UK navy?  What is the cost of German IPCs to kill that 60 ipc UK navy?  Don’t count your subs you start with, they are made for this after all and you can’t turn them into ipc.  Only count what you are purchasing as navy or losing as planes.  I do not think it is worth it, and you will have a Russia owning Norway, Karelia, Western Russia, BeloRussia, Ukraine, and also one of either the Balkans or Eastern Europe.

Points for originality, and you should give it a shot, but I just do not think it is feasible (at least not without lucky rolls)

if i’m not mistaken you can non-com the 2 baltic subs to be within reach of any of the seazones (you also might have that 3rd one alive if you get lucky) and that should enable you to get atleast 4 fighters (2 could land on carrier) a bomber and 2 subs to attack and the uk will have 2 destroyers a carrier and 2 fighters (plus the russian sub or crusier).  Thats not that great a set up, but you really just need 4 hits (and you should average more than 3 on the first round) so you kill the carrier and then you can just retreat.  He should hit you slightly over 2x so you kill your subs and maybe 1 of your 6 fighters if he hits you that 3rd time and blam, no more uk navy and now w/e navy you bought round 1 is moved out and capable of striking any uk sz and your med bship might even get to link up.

I just got this idea for an axis strat and want to know how you guys think it will play out and get ideas on how to optimize it.

The heart of the strategy is to kill the starting brit navy in s2 using 1 sub 1 fighter and 1 bomber and follow this up with building a navy so big on G1 that UK can do nothing to prevent germany from destroying a navy purchase on uk1.  This is followed by Japan setting up for a J2 (preferable) or J3 alaska invasion.

The idea is that the only ally that can challenge the G navy is the U.S. and to make them spend enough ipcs on defending against japan that the UK and US will be essentially helpless or take too long to aid russia, who will have to fight Germany 1on1.

The downside of course is that G will have to cede more territory than normal the first turn or 2 to russia, but the general income and starting unit difference + delayed uk/usa help i think should make up for that.

Some concerns i’d like input on…

I’ve thought about forgoing an invasion of Africa in favor of trying to link the med. battleship w/ the baltic navy.  Not collecting those ipcs will hurt G. but the UK having them shouldnt matter that much because they shouldnt be able to place much of anything anyway.

In gearing up for an alaska assault, and if the angloegypt uk fighter lives, Japan will be weakened on the asia mainland.  What should Japans main objectives other than the alaska assault be. (i think it should be taking over the us/chinese territory in an effort to prevent the us from being able to snipe some ipcs)

What would your response as UK be to this? It seems it might be most effective to sit on the cash or buy some fighters and then place a super huge navy on uk2 but idk.

What do you think the best purchase for G1 is here.  I think 1 carrier in baltic has too high a chance of having critical units sniped by 2ftrs/1bomb on UK1.  I’m thinking G1 needs 2 carriers because that would give it more flexibility to aggressively go after the us fleet if it is too small.  The problem here is that w/ this purchase germany can’t really afford to take many hits, so i was thinking eventually linking with the med bship and maybe building an extra destroyer or something on G1 might be useful.

Obviously this answer depends on how battles go and what happens on Rus1 and Uk1 but i’m not sure what the best purchase for J1 is.  I’d like to place 3-4 transports in the sz that is within range of alaska, but the US will be able to hit it with 1 fighter and 1 sub.  Any ideas on the optimal units to purchase/leave to defend there? or would it be better to place in the other sz and go for a J3 alaska invasion (i dont think this should really be an option since it allows US 2 turns to build a counter to germany navy).

Finally, do you think this is just bad theory or is it actually viable?

Thanks!