12L AA50-41 djensen (Axis) vs Amon Sûl (Allies +9)

[Amon-Sul]

The bid is 2 inf Belo. 1 inf Egypt

CHEERS :)

[djensen]

Are we playing with or without tech? I’d prefer without.

[djensen]

What about national objectives? I’m thinking no on that as well. I’m going to start the game without tech and without NOs. If you want something else, we can restart the game.

[djensen47]

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A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25974.3#msg899432

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[djensen47]

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 4 artilleries and 5 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

Combat Move - Germans
            2 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 2 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Germany to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from France to 13 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 13 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 15 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Egypt
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Bulgaria Romania to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Poland to East Poland
            2 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            2 armour moved from Poland to Ukraine

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Egypt
                Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Germans win, taking Egypt from British with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win with 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 2 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 battleship and 1 transport
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 transport
            Battle in East Poland
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 4 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from 2 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Libya
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 fighter moved from East Poland to France
            1 fighter moved from Northwestern Europe to France
            1 infantry moved from Northwestern Europe to France
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to Bulgaria Romania
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Bulgaria Romania
            1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Germany to France

Place Units - Germans
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs total

Territory Summary for Germans :

Czechoslovakia Hungary : 2 armour
    Egypt : 1 flag, 2 armour and 1 artillery
    France : 2 fighters and 3 infantry
    Finland : 1 infantry
    Germany : 1 aaGun, 4 artilleries, 1 factory and 5 infantry
    Libya : 1 bomber and 1 infantry
    Norway : 2 fighters and 3 infantry
    Poland : 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Bulgaria Romania : 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Ukraine : 1 flag, 4 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    2 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    6 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser, 1 submarine and 1 transport
    15 Sea Zone : 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 35 / 35
    Russians : 28 / 30
    Japanese : 17 / 17
    British : 41 / 43
    Italians : 10 / 10
    Chinese : 7 / 0
    Americans : 40 / 40

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25974.4#msg899731

[djensen]

Sorry, I edited your post to include the game we’re playing in the title.

@Amon:

The bid is 2 inf Belo. 1 inf Egypt

CHEERS :)

[Amon-Sul]

no tech no NAs is ok

[Amon-Sul]

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 3 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

Combat Move - Russians
            1 submarine moved from 4 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland

Combat - Russians
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 cruiser, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 cruiser and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
            Battle in Finland
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 5 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Finland from Germans with 1 artillery and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Caucasus
            2 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Evenki National Okrug to Novosibirsk
            1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug
            2 infantry moved from Stanovoj Chrebet to Yakut S.S.R.
            3 infantry moved from Buryatia S.S.R. to Stanovoj Chrebet
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to East Poland
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Ukraine to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Eastern Ukraine
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus
            1 armour moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Archangel to Russia
            2 infantry moved from Belorussia to Russia
            1 aaGun moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland

Place Units - Russians
            1 armour and 3 infantry placed in Caucasus
            2 armour placed in Karelia S.S.R.
            1 aaGun placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25974.7#msg899778

[Amon-Sul]

Territory Summary for Russians :

Baltic States : 1 infantry
    Belorussia : 2 infantry
    Caucasus : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 13 infantry
    East Poland : 1 infantry
    Evenki National Okrug : 1 infantry
    Finland : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 5 infantry
    Karelia S.S.R. : 3 armour and 1 factory
    Kazakh S.S.R. : 2 infantry
    Eastern Ukraine : 1 infantry
    Novosibirsk : 1 infantry
    Russia : 2 aaGuns, 1 factory and 4 infantry
    Soviet Far East : 2 infantry
    Stanovoj Chrebet : 3 infantry
    Yakut S.S.R. : 2 infantry

[Amon-Sul]

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 33 / 35
    Russians : 30 / 30
    Japanese : 17 / 17
    British : 41 / 43
    Italians : 10 / 10
    Chinese : 7 / 0
    Americans : 40 / 40

[Amon-Sul]

CAN YOU PLEASE MOVE MY AA GUN FROM RUSIA TO BELORUSIA

AND 2 INF FROM SFE TO YAKUT

THANK YOU

[djensen]

So apparently I screwed up. The bid favoring the Allies should be when using national objectives. I have learned that without national objectives, the bid might be just he opposite, like Axis +7 or something.

Not sure how to rectify this. I think we can turn on NOs in TripleA at anytime but you would have to be willing to do that. Or we play a few rounds and I eventually concede a loss.

Thoughts?

[djensen47]

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Russia: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Belorussia: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Soviet Far East: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Yakut S.S.R.: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Japanese buy 1 armour and 1 fighter; 2 PUs remaining

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            1 artillery moved from 50 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 49 Sea Zone to Borneo
                  Japanese take Borneo from British
            2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 51 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 51 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to East Indies
                  Japanese take East Indies from British
            1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 51 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 51 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 60 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 60 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            2 fighters moved from 61 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to Suiyuan
            2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Suiyuan
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Fukien
            2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Fukien
            3 infantry moved from French Indo-China Thailand to Yunnan

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 50 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship and 2 transports
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 battleship and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Philippine Islands
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Americans defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Philippine Islands from Americans with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Japanese win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Battle in Suiyuan
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuan from Chinese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Fukien
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Fukien from Chinese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 armour moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 carrier moved from 61 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 57 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from 57 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Suiyuan to Japan
            1 fighter moved from Fukien to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 cruiser moved from 61 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Kiangsu
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Fukien

Place Units - Japanese
            1 armour and 1 fighter placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs total

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Borneo : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    East Indies : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    French Indo-China Thailand : 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
    Fukien : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Japan : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
    Kiangsu : 1 infantry
    Philippine Islands : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Suiyuan : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Yunnan : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    36 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    37 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 2 fighters
    38 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    49 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    50 Sea Zone : 1 battleship and 2 transports
    51 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 33 / 35
    Russians : 30 / 30
    Japanese : 30 / 32
    British : 33 / 43
    Italians : 10 / 10
    Chinese : 4 / 0
    Americans : 38 / 40

A&A Forum : http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=25974.12#msg899775

[Amon-Sul]

@djensen:

So apparently I screwed up. The bid favoring the Allies should be when using national objectives. I have learned that without national objectives, the bid might be just he opposite, like Axis +7 or something.

Not sure how to rectify this. I think we can turn on NOs in TripleA at anytime but you would have to be willing to do that. Or we play a few rounds and I eventually concede a loss.

Thoughts?

as i know in revised axis had the bid in aa-41 the allies have it

[djensen]

Okay, happy holidays, and go ahead with your turn.

We’ll see how it turns out.

[Zhukov44]

Strictly speaking National Objectives on is the default for league games.  Even if you both agree they are to be off, one should decide on using NOs before you bid.  It seems that Djenson legitimately didn’t know that the games here are played with NOs and agreed to 9 because that seems to be a normal bid around here (with NOs).

If you continue on w/o NOs it probably wouldn’t be fair to count it as a league game, since you apparently didn’t agree on using or not using NOs before the bid was finalized.  However at this early stage, it would be very easy to switch the game to NOs, using edit to factor them in.

[Amon-Sul]

djensen i am sory i confused

we have to play NOS

and tech is out

otherwise
the biding is ˝wrong˝

what do we do now

[djensen]

Okay, can you turn them on and do your next turn?

Should we adjust the income for Germany & Japan, if needed, as well?

[Zhukov44]

To change it, go to Game Options, and turn NOs on.

Then use edit to add 5 ipcs each to Japan, Germany, and Russia.  And you’re good to go.

For more on national objectives see
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=12287.0

[Amon-Sul]

@Zhukov44:

To change it, go to Game Options, and turn NOs on.

Then use edit to add 5 ipcs each to Japan, Germany, and Russia.  And you’re good to go.

For more on national objectives see
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=12287.0

i cant see turn NOs