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Allied play in Europe 1940

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@Cornwallis said in France's role in Global 1940 SE:

The time i would see use in it is when you activily try to hunt the luftwaffe.

I’ve theorized that this needs to be the crux of Allied thinking.

To wit, when playing against the Ai, the builds for the western Allies are sort of focused around having a strong enough escort fleet to either soak or deter a kamikaze-style attack by the Luftwaffe, in order to protect your supply chain of transports.

There’s a few issues, that you have to try and balance with that:
Deterring the attack vs. baiting it out and making actual kills. It seems like the only ways to achieve the latter is with some combination of scrambling and bombing/escorting. Soaking hits with your navy vs. having meaningful attack power on land. An escort fleet heavy on destroyers does the former very well, but for making landfall in Europe, you need a stronger contingent of carriers+aircraft, with maybe some battleships for a mix of soaking hits and adding offense. Spending too much on fleets vs. not enough on ground troops. If every SZ you need to meaningfully defend requires something like 40+ IPCs of escort ships, I can’t see how the British alone (or the US waiting until round 3/4) can meet that demand while still making any meaningful inroads militarily against the Axis.
I think these last 2 points in particular are why I’ve always found myself pulling the UK fleet behind the Suez canal, rather than sending those ships on a suicidal Taranto attack. But, to the 1st point, is part of the Taranto move an attempt to bait/kill German planes, too?

What I’ve found in games where the Ai does go after an allied fleet with the Luftwaffe (beyond the 1st round) is that the result is a much shorter game overall (i.e. the Axis lose faster.) So I can only assume the competent Axis players have taken this into account, and just won’t ever make this sort of move. Again, this brings us back to the 1st point, about how do we bait an attack from the Germans.
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Thanks, Mike for your suggestion. A few days ago I realized the implication of my declaration of war.
At the beginning of the game I thought it to be normal for the Axis powers to declare war to everybody as that reflects the reality at the beginning of the war.
I also declared war on the neutrals, as my country, Belgium, was neutral at the beginning of WW2 (and WW1!), but was attacked by the Germans (my father and his 2 brothers were in the resistance, caught and spent 3 years in concentrations camps - only my father survived)

In the game, at the beginning, I should probably have done some stuff with that Japanese navy, but now it’s too late. Navy is difficult to learn and I’m still learning a lot ;)

Thanks for not taking advantage with those neutrals, but I would not be astonished if you will win the game.
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PTV - regularkid (Axis +8) vs mikawagunichi (Allies)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 2 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 98 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Greece to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Tobruk to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Egypt 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Egypt 1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Crete 1 armour moved from Tobruk to Egypt 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt Combat - Italians Battle in Crete Battle in Egypt Italians attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 harbour; ANZAC defend with 2 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Egypt, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 2 infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Egypt Italians win, taking Crete from Neutral_Allies, taking Egypt from British with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia Italians take Tunisia from Neutral_Axis 1 bomber moved from Egypt to Alexandria 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Alexandria 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan Place Units - Italians 1 transport placed in 99 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.83 British regular : -0.67
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Wiz (X) vs Sunkhareb (L+21) BM4 G1 L25

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

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Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 3 armour, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus 3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Belarus 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Belarus 2 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 artillery moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov 6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia Place Units - Russians 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Ukraine 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from 127 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to 124 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
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Gamerman01 (Axis+11) vs. VictoryFirst (Allies) | Classic 2025 Tournament, Losers Round 2

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Is this game still running?
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L25 PtV Ghostglider (Axis+15) vs Adam514

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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 10
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 10 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 4 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 48 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 56 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 3 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 55 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 3 carriers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 3 destroyers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 55 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 10 submarines moved from 55 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 5 fighters moved from 55 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Solomon Islands to 55 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from Solomon Islands to 55 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Solomon Islands to 50 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from New South Wales to 55 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 99 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 2 bombers and 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 50 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Solomon Islands to 55 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Holland Belgium Americans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 4 infantry Germans defend with 3 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 cruisers in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium Americans win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Battle in 47 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 1 submarine Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 47 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 47 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 47 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Battle in 55 Sea Zone ANZAC loiter and taunt; Americans attack with 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone Americans win with 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Battle in 50 Sea Zone Americans attack with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 5 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 50 Sea Zone Americans win with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer 2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Southeast Mexico 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 52 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 52 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 27 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 5 fighters moved from 50 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 55 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 47 Sea Zone to New South Wales 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 55 Sea Zone to New Zealand 1 tactical_bomber moved from 50 Sea Zone to New Zealand 1 tactical_bomber moved from 50 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 65 Sea Zone to New South Wales 3 fighters moved from 47 Sea Zone to New Zealand 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 27 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 66 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 66 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands Place Units - Americans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 4 submarines and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States 1 fighter placed in Western United States 3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 59 PUs; end with 59 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 79 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 89 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Shansi 1 fighter moved from Kansu to Shansi 25 infantry moved from Honan to Hopei Combat - Chinese Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 25 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 25 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 6/25 hits, 4.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 25 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Shansi Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shansi Chinese win, taking Shansi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Shansi to Kansu Place Units - Chinese 3 infantry placed in Hopei Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 10 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 3 armour, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 99 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Southern Persia to 99 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 99 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 3 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers; Russians loiter and taunt Italians defend with 1 destroyer British roll dice for 3 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - British 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Baluchistan 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Southern Persia 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia Place Units - British 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Southern Persia 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Iraq 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 45 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 48 PUs Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 2.17 Americans regular : 0.67 Italians regular : 0.67 Japanese regular : -1.67 Germans regular : 1.00 British regular : 1.00
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crocket36 (Allies) vs Simon33 (Axis+6) French Rebalance

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I reckon German will have Moscow G12.
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France's role in Global 1940 SE

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@crockett36 good remark. Should be better now?