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L25 PTV Nikola1975 (Axis+12) v Max334 (Allies)

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L25 OOB elche (X) vs. Martin (L+35)

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Round: 5 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans repair damage of 4x factory_minor, 3x airfield; Remaining resources: 83 PUs; Germans buy 6 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 15 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Finland 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 2 artilleries moved from Germany to Poland 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 armour moved from United Kingdom to Eire Germans take Eire from British Combat - Germans Battle in Finland Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Finland, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Finland Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Finland, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Finland, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Finland Germans win, taking Finland from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in Poland Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun and 4 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Poland Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Poland, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Poland, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Poland, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Poland, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Poland Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Poland, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Poland, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Poland Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun and 4 infantry Battle in 113 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians and 1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 113 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine Battle in 104 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 2 destroyers Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 destroyers in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 destroyers owned by the Americans lost in 104 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16 Casualties for Americans: 2 destroyers Non Combat Move - Germans 7 armour and 1 artillery moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone 7 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 8 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway 1 armour moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway 6 armour moved from 113 Sea Zone to Germany 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Germany 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway 1 tactical_bomber moved from Finland to Norway 1 fighter moved from Finland to Norway 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from 113 Sea Zone to Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Greater Southern Germany 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany 1 aaGun moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 110 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in United Kingdom 6 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Germany 8 infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 4. 8 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0,67 Russians regular : 0,00 Germans regular : -1,50
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L25 Avner (L+9) vs Surfer (X) BM4

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese 1 armour, 4 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Siam to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea Japanese take New Guinea from ANZAC 1 artillery moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 marine moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsi to Yunnan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Yunnan 2 bombers moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha Japanese take Sakha from Russians Combat - Japanese Battle in Guam Battle in Philippines Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Philippines, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Philippines, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines Japanese win, taking Guam from Americans, taking Philippines from Americans with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 9 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 11 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 9 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 8/27 hits, 11.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 11 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 8 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 4 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 3 : 11/22 hits, 10.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 4 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for Japanese: 5 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 11 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Anhwe 1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Japan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 6 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 21 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State 1 submarine moved from 41 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis 2 bombers moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Anhwe 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 aaGun moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Jehol 4 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 aaGun moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 factory_minor placed in Kwangtung 3 infantry placed in Shantung 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.33 Americans regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : -2.67
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L25 BM4 Ghostglider (Axis) vs Avner (Allies+18)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History
Round: 4 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod Germans take Novgorod from Russians 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine Germans take Ukraine from Russians 2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus 1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States 2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 armour moved from Romania to Baltic States 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Egypt to Belgian Congo Combat - Germans Battle in Belgian Congo Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 3 mech_infantrys Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 4.17 expected hits British roll dice for 3 mech_infantrys in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 bombers owned by the Germans lost in Belgian Congo 3 mech_infantrys owned by the British lost in Belgian Congo Germans win with 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -16 Casualties for Germans: 2 bombers Casualties for British: 3 mech_infantrys Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 5 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 5 mech_infantrys in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 5 mech_infantrys in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Belarus Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 5 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland 3 aaGuns, 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 9 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 5 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine 2 armour moved from Romania to Western Ukraine 9 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Western Ukraine 5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland 2 artilleries moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 fighter moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 2 tactical_bombers moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania Place Units - Germans 6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 2 fighters and 4 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2 Germans collect 49 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 49 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -1.33 Germans regular : -2.33 British regular : 1.00
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L25 PTV #2 ArtofWar (X+12) v Stucifer (L)

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It appears Marti is intent on making things hard for an attacker.

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Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria Italians take Alexandria from British 1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Greece 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in Gibraltar Battle in Greece Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser in Greece, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 0/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Greece, round 5 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Kenya from British to Italians EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Ethiopia: 1 artillery and 2 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Italian Somaliland: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Kenya: 1 artillery and 3 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy 1 marine placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 74 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3 Italians collect 12 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 12 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -3.17 Neutral_Allies regular : -1.33
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L25 BM4 Ghostglider (Axis) vs simon33 (Allies+19)

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Please continue from last map with Japan AC moved to sz85
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Booper (L+15) over Simon33 BM

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