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L25 PTV Stucifer (X+11) vs Axis-Dominion (L)

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seems like no matter what i do, i get sea lion’ed in ptv. so may as well take a risk and have fun with it.
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1942 2nd edition Tournament Practice - Stucifer & Culann

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TripleA Turn Summary: British round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 SE TR

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Round: 2 Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Combat - British Non Combat Move - British 4 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to India 1 fighter moved from India to 35 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Caucasus to India 1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Persia to Kazakh S.S.R. 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 10 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to Greenland 1 fighter moved from Archangel to West Russia 1 fighter moved from Archangel to India 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan Place Units - British 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter placed in 35 Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
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L25 PTV ArtofWar (X+10) v Stucifer (L)

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L25 PTV Adam514 (Axis+14) vs axis-dominion (Allies)

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 25
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 25 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Russia to Gorky 1 infantry moved from Russia to Gorky 3 infantry moved from Russia to Yaroslavl 1 artillery moved from Smolensk to Yaroslavl 2 infantry moved from Smolensk to Southern Belarus 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern Belarus 1 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northwest Persia Russians take Northwest Persia from Germans Combat - Russians Battle in Gorky Russians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Gorky, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Gorky, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Gorky, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Gorky, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Gorky, round 4 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Gorky, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Gorky, round 5 : 3/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Gorky, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Gorky Russians win, taking Gorky from Germans with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Yaroslavl Russians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yaroslavl Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 4 : 3/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yaroslavl Russians win, taking Yaroslavl from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Southern Belarus Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Southern Belarus 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern Belarus Russians win, taking Southern Belarus from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk 1 fighter moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk 3 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 19 artilleries and 62 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northwest Persia 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern Caucasus 2 fighters moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Caucasus 1 armour moved from Baluchistan to Western India 9 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Kursk 1 armour moved from Western India to Eastern India Place Units - Russians 10 infantry placed in Russia 2 infantry placed in Urals Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Yenisey: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Timguska: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
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Germans regular : -0.67 Russians regular : -1.17
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TGC (CP) vs Ragnell804(Entente), 1914 Balanced

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Round: 1 Purchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians Italians roll mine dice in SZ 17 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Trigger SerbiaJoins: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachmentSerbiaSwitch attached to Russians Trigger RomaniaJoins: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachmentRomaniaSwitch attached to Russians Trigger SerbiaJoins: Russians captures territory Serbia Trigger SerbiaJoins: Russians takes ownership of territory Serbia Trigger RomaniaJoins: Russians captures territory Romania Trigger RomaniaJoins: Russians takes ownership of territory Romania 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia 4 infantry moved from Budapest to Serbia 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Budapest to Romania 2 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Vienna to Galicia 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Bohemia to Galicia 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Tyrolia to Trieste 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from SZ 18 to SZ 17 Russians take Serbia from Neutral_Allied Russians take Romania from Neutral_Allied Combat - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians has abandoned SZ 9 to British AustroHungarians has abandoned SZ 12 to Russians AustroHungarians has abandoned SZ 15 to French AustroHungarians has abandoned SZ 16 to French AustroHungarians has abandoned SZ 21 to Russians Battle in Serbia AustroHungarians attack with 2 artilleries and 10 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 10 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 4/12 hits, 4.67 expected hits Neutral_Allied roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Serbia 3 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Serbia AustroHungarians win, taking SZ 9 from Neutral, taking SZ 12 from Neutral, taking SZ 15 from Neutral, taking SZ 16 from Neutral, taking SZ 21 from Neutral, taking Serbia from Russians with 2 artilleries and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Battle in Romania AustroHungarians attack with 4 artilleries and 14 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 artilleries and 14 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 11/18 hits, 7.33 expected hits Neutral_Allied roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Romania 5 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Romania AustroHungarians win, taking Romania from Russians with 4 artilleries and 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 5 infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from SZ 17: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in SZ 17 Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 mines and 1 transport Combat Move - AustroHungarians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to SZ 17: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - AustroHungarians 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 31 PUs; end with 32 PUs
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Italians mine : -0.33 Neutral_Allied regular : 0.00 AustroHungarians regular : 3.00
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L25 PtV Ghostglider (Axis+15) vs Adam514

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 3 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 submarine moved from 130 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Leningrad 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 aaGun moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Stalingrad to Urals 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Northern Belarus 3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Northern Belarus 1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Northern Belarus 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 1 fighter moved from Russia to Yenisey 2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia 3 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 3 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha 2 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northern Caucasus 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Kursk 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Leningrad Place Units - Russians 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Leningrad 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 1 artillery placed in Siberia 4 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs
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L24 PtV Gorshak (Axis+10) vs ArtofWar1947 (Allies) #2

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Round: 15 Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Western India to Szechwan 1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone Combat Move - French Turn Complete - French
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"East & West" by Imp Games - Discussion

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This’ll be my last post on this topic out of time constraints. I love the back and forth but I don’t see anything here that is new or otherwise convinces me that the game is balanced or that it favors the USSR.

At this point, I don’t see there being any daylight made between us on game theory (which is fine with me). This is the main reason I don’t really like to write essays. I just don’t have the time and minds generally don’t get changed via this method in my experience.

You have a point, but you’re also completely discounting the fact that NATO can only really act at 1/3rd efficiency with those units.

I did not discount this but I didn’t share every detail of the valuation so it’s totally forgivable. My valuation does not include infantry from either side because there’s almost EXACTLY the same amount for each side at the end of R1. NATO has way more stuff in every category at the end of round 1 except tanks. Further, to be fair with regards to TUV, we’d have to count NATOs first round of purchases in the valuation. This essentially doubles the TUV gulf. I didn’t mention this in the initial post.

Fruity pebbles is a phenomenon that exists to some extent in every version of axis and allies. This is extremely challenging for AnA players to handle on a good day. The response is to understand you only need to be winning in one area of the map and holding everywhere else to win the game. There are finer details but this is the general concept. In E&W, its hold in India, hold inEurope and kick in the back door as the USA in Kamchatka. After the first two to three turns, the economy is balanced as you point out but NATO has 200 TUV over the Russians (not including the Navy) and the Russians should be contained with their demise coming on their east front via USA. This is the best way to “see” the imbalance. There is a loss of kinetic energy as the Russians as the economy balances and then the USA is piercing through.

I could (and might) run the same valuation for Anniversary and Classic to have something to compare it to so this is better understood but I don’t know. Takes time to lay out and I’d rather be playing. I’m unchanged. NATO should win 6/7 games at least. If that’s not happening there was some extreme dice event or NATO was mishandled. But I leave my mind open to being changed over the board. If something can be demonstrated repeatedly, I absolutely will abandon this position after investigating why/what was so misleading - but experience tells me that is unlikely.

If the game ends up being balanced or less in favor of NATO, I believe it will come from increasing the risk profile of the soviet opener to an… unreliable but at least threatening chance of success as @Ragnell804 did. But you’ll still need very good dice.

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…get to the Fusion bomb asap. This is the “heavy bombers” of East and West. Maybe through some combination of spies and tech, the soviets can make up the massive TUV advantage by blowing away pieces in a truly economical way.

As a side note: the NATO “at start” nuke is very impactful in the ways that are considered secondary. Removing 5 Russian infantry might be a letdown, but when you do this to the SFE industrial complex on the turn you land in Kamchatka, you ensure the Russian counterattack is less likely to succeed because they’re down five infantry and can’t move their fighters due to EMP. Finally, on the Russian turn, because the IPC value has been reduced, the Russians can only add two Russian infantries instead of four.

This typically forces the Russian player into a horrific choice. Abandon the territory leaving the fighters to be destroyed because they couldn’t move. Or fight a losing battle in SFE and die with the fighters albeit at higher NATO cost. If NATO is using the nuke in some other way, imo - its being used inefficiently. Full stop. The NATO nuke is for the critical territory of SFE timed when landing in Kamchatka.